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  Lack of take up of Advance Directive forms

  by billyboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  as some of you know, i am an elder in a southern england congregation.

  the britain branch ( policy letter dec 8th 2007) stopped all hlc brothers giving talks at other congregations and as a result the take-up of the advance directive form (ad) has dropped dramatically.

  jws are presenting themselves at hospitals without the form and nhs staff are phoning the hlc to ask that an elder visits to help them compose it while in hospital.. the uk branch is asking hlc members to meet up with bodies of elders so that we can "educate the brothers" (their expression) - we had our meeting a few weeks ago with a couple of the hlc brothers.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Is it possible that a pubic fade of the Blood Doctrine is in the works?

  Consider the policy if a baptized publisher joins the military. That person is considered to have DA themselves. Same as being DFd. You won't find any public statement on this policy. No meeting parts. If it happens, elders convene to determine if it is true (2 witnesses) and announcement is made regarding DA. There is no doubt that this is WT policy. We all know it. I believe it is in the "secret" elders' book. But where is it publicly stated?
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  How does the WTBTS Deceive.

  by ABibleStudent in

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  2. beliefs

  john 8:42-47 (niv 2008).

  42 jesus said to them, "if god were your father, you would love me, for i came from god and now am here.

  43 why is my language not clear to you?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Originally I was convinced that sincere, well-meaning, imperfect people can make innocent mistakes or can be mislead....or confused. But since being here, the evidence has mounted that would indicate that some mistakes are not so innocent. Instead, an intentional effort todecieve seems apparent.

  WT spin on 1914 (see new DVD)

  WT spin on 1975

  New policy on accepting blood transfusions as stated to members of the Press

  Misquotes (so bad that they had to be intentionally misleading) in the Reasoning Book and Creator Book

  Changes in the wording of WT & AW articles & publications in re-prints and Bound Volumes

  Claims that The Holy Spirit makes appointments of Elders & GB members
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  Can you be appointed as an Elder while attending college?

  by doubtful in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is the current stance on this issue?

  i've heard of a lot of ms who were going to university, and yet i've never heard of that being the case for elders.

  someone on this board also mentioned recently that they knew of man who was denied appointment as an elder despite otherwise excellent qualifications because he was a college student.

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  DesirousOfChange

  An MS who is pursuing advanced education which is required for and paid for by his employer, but who still carries above average FS hours could have a chance if he's in a body of "progresive" elders. Probably equal odds to winning lottery (which does happen).
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  Are most JW families dysfunctional?

  by 21stcenturywoman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  based on certain families who i've known personally in the "truth", there was infidelity which resulted in children out of wedlock, drug abuse, abortion (involving an elder's teenager), verbal, emotional, & physical abuse (by parents and spouses), and dependence on public assistance.

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  DesirousOfChange

  who is NOT dysfunctional today?

  Last non-dysfunctional family: Ward & June Cleaver (and they called their son The Beaver)
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  Is Tiger Woods career over ???

  by RubaDub in

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  2. friends

  i've been rather shocked to read lately how so many people in the world of golf are predicting tiger's days as a champion are done.. with 4 surgeries on his left knee and a problem with his achilles tendon, he tried to play at this week's tournament event (the players) and had to quit after 9 holes shooting a 43 (worst of all players).

  and this was after a 1 month rest since he hasn't played since early april.. he even mentioned that he cannot walk properly now with so much pain and weakness in his left leg.

  and the amazing amount of torque that he puts on his left side when swinging the club just makes it worse.. many are quietly speculating that tiger may be forced to retire.. rub a dub .

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  DesirousOfChange

  Is Tiger Woods career over ???

  Only if he can get better control of his putter.
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  dos it really matter if it was a cross or a stake???

  by highdose in

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  2. friends

  what does it matter?

  i belive its been found that the romans used both, so what does it matter?.

  what does it matter that the roman word for cross sounds also like a word for another god?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  NO. But try to tell THEM that.
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  I am thinking about voting

  by Bucholz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, i am thinking about voting for the first time in my life.

  even though there is a questions from readers article that basically mentioned it is a conscience matter, we all know what the unwritten rule is.. problem is, even though i'm mentally out, i'm still physically in.

  do you think that if i'm seen at the polling station by the witnesses i could suffer any consequences?

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  DesirousOfChange

  What would another witness be doing at the polling place?

  Isn't that kinda like the scenario of what to you do if you see someone who know at a X-rated movie? Just ask: How ya doing, Pervert?
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  completed my degree this week

  by chickpea in

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  2. friends

  took my final final exam to end my course work.

  for my aas in complementary and alternative .

  medicine, so when all the applications and .

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  DesirousOfChange

  I now have found a few herbs good for the soul.........

  Me too. But I did not inhale.
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  Lack of take up of Advance Directive forms

  by billyboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  as some of you know, i am an elder in a southern england congregation.

  the britain branch ( policy letter dec 8th 2007) stopped all hlc brothers giving talks at other congregations and as a result the take-up of the advance directive form (ad) has dropped dramatically.

  jws are presenting themselves at hospitals without the form and nhs staff are phoning the hlc to ask that an elder visits to help them compose it while in hospital.. the uk branch is asking hlc members to meet up with bodies of elders so that we can "educate the brothers" (their expression) - we had our meeting a few weeks ago with a couple of the hlc brothers.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Stay the hell out of the lives of the R&F members.

  That would be no way to run a cult.

  ROFLMAO
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  What was a "MarkingTalk"?

  by prophecor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've only been in the truth from a distance.

  family not in.

  studied for years back and forth.

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  DesirousOfChange

  "Marking" was the action taken when it was not serious enough for a JC. Dating a worldly person.

  I suspect the new BRAZEN rule will allow more things to be pumped up to JC.

  (WOW #400)