Posts by DesirousOfChange

Local elders DF the guy but he eventually appealed to the Service Dept (Brooklyn then) and they determined the local elders had erred. He was not "reinstated". The DFing was rescinded.

Just another example of the dumbass redneck elders not following procedure. This was probably before the Secret Elders' Book was released, so I guess we'll give 'em come slack. I'm sure the Book spells it out clearly. But then, that means at least one of the Elders on the JC has to be able to read.

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2020 Memorial Talk Outline!

by Atlantis in

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2020 memorial talk outline.. https://docdro.id/73bh2yg.

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petra!.

DesirousOfChange

Thanks, but I'll wait. Unfortunately, I'll probably have to sit through this to keep Mom happy.

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JWs: No Infant Baptism! (just children)

by neat blue dog in

here's a new article that came out:.

do jehovah’s witnesses baptize infants?no.

the bible does not endorse infant baptism.

DesirousOfChange

And the most laughable part is that JW`s consider a baptised witness a Minister of God ? A male or female child of 10 or 12 is a Minister of god ? ~ Smiddy

But on a weekday for Field Circus, that 12 year old little boy who is a "Baptized Minister" will conduct the Field Circus Meeting for all those "lesser" women publishers who don't have a penis to qualify.

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JWs: No Infant Baptism! (just children)

by neat blue dog in

here's a new article that came out:.

do jehovah’s witnesses baptize infants?no.

the bible does not endorse infant baptism.

DesirousOfChange

So why does the WT discourage teen marriage? Surely if a child is old enough to make a commitment to a church that can never be nullified except under threat of losing ones family and friends they must be old enough to marry!~ FedUpJW

YES! This is the best argument ever!

At 8, 10, or 12 years old, parents don't even kids make their own decisions on how late to stay up, on whether or not to brush their teeth, or perhaps even on what or order in a fast food restaurant. But it's OK to make the "most important decision of your life"?????

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How Much of the WT Teaching Did You Believe?

by Ding in

some people on this forum have said that they never really believed any aspect of wt teaching, that they couldn't wait to get free of it all.. others seems to have been really gung ho, believing it all until something happened that got you questioning "the truth.".

i would say my own high water mark was about 50%, which put me squarely on the fence, trying to decide if i should be in or out.. how about you?.

DesirousOfChange

If you open your dictionary to the word: GULLIBLE, you'll find my picture.

I believed it all. All the hocus pocus holy spirit and all that. Anything that didn't quite "fit", well the Big J would sort it all out before The End.

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2019 Service Year Report Grand Total

by Listener in

the watchtower is thrilled with the amount baptised in the 2019 service year.

they are reporting an increase in publishers of 103,208 from the 2018 year.. this is what they have posted under global news on their website -.

2019 service year report includes largest baptismal figure in 20 yearswe are thrilled to announce that during the 2019 service year, more than 300,000 individuals were baptized as jehovah’s witnesses.

DesirousOfChange

Figures Lie, and Liars Figure.

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JWs: No Infant Baptism! (just children)

by neat blue dog in

here's a new article that came out:.

do jehovah’s witnesses baptize infants?no.

the bible does not endorse infant baptism.

DesirousOfChange

The goal of baptism is to let them "get their hooks" into the youth so they have power over them to prevent them from leaving in the future.

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10 Year Growth Chart

by HiddenPimo in

here are some visuals to help show what is going on with the jw numbers game.

i am not a numbers guy and there maybe a few errors (info directly from grand total pages on jw.borg).

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DesirousOfChange

Peak Pubs is a fictitious number. Every pub that didn't turn in a field report 1/2 the time is given the opportunity to "catch them up" at the end of the service year, so Peak Pubs is always that Sept total that has Joe Deadbeat reporting 2 hours every month for the 6 months he had turned in zero. Average Pubs would have been a better picture, but still this indicates JW's have a 3.5% growth rate but a 2.3% attrition rate (incl deaths and defections), with a resulting in a true increase of only 1.2% annually which is the same as the annual global population growth. IOW, the only real increase they have is that of young JW's having babies.

I'm still a bit shocked that there is ANY kind of increase when it seems JW's are leaving in droves.

I wonder too, how many are "fake" publishers or just "putting in their time" to stay "in" for family and friends?