DesirousOfChange

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  Unbelievable!

  by The Fall Guy in

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  you gotta listen to the first 60 seconds of the special talk drivel.. you'll immediately see why i've put this under jokes & humour.

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  https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodspecialtalk2020/pub-sp-tk20r_1_video.

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  DesirousOfChange

  My mother had the CO visit this week. He told them to expect the Great Tribulation right after this COVID thing has passed. I told her I thought Jesus said it would come "when you least expect it". WTF?
  
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  Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?

  by AlainAlam in

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  do you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?

  as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..

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  DesirousOfChange

  "I think what AlainA is trying to assert on this thread is that the GB men or past presidents of the WTS were just misinformed good willed and well intended people."

  By and large, I think that is true of at least some of them. The older GB members were as mystified by the doctrinal "spins" of Freddie Franz as were most of us. Remember they were all uneducated, socially inept men. And, it wasn't until the clock ran out on many of those things (ie, this generation not passing away) that it became evident (at least to anyone not completely blinded) that Freddie had been all wrong all along. I think most of them died happy that death was finally relieving them of the pain of their cognitive dissonance.
  
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  Nice Street Interviews Just in Time for the Memorial

  by Sea Breeze in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqwh_usezpu&feature=youtu.be.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Good (lack of) "social distancing".
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  Zoom compromised

  by Butyoucanneverleave in

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  2. current

  the washington post has an article titled thousands of zoom video calls left exposed on open web.

  i wonder if the witnesses know this.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Once again the Borg's decisions seem to be lacking "wise direction" as one would expect to have when being directed by God.
  
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  3M Corporation-- You are Absolutely DISGUSTING - I hope you are sitting down when reading this

  by RubaDub in

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  i was watching the local news in the background and i heard a guy talking about 3m and how florida was getting screwed.

  i didn't hear the whole report.. later, i was switching through the channels and i saw the same guy talking to tucker carlson (fox news).

  come to find out he is the federal cdc equivalent at the state level.

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  DesirousOfChange

  For what it's worth, Trump says he is pissed and said 3M will pay the price. He signed some war powers act or something and said he can force them to manufacture the masks. I guess we will see.

  I'm betting on Trump on this one.

  3M is gonna get fucked.

  (Remember he kindly convinced GM and Ford into production of ventilators. I would think he would just have to say there would never be another GM or Ford vehicle purchased by the US Gov't.)
  
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  Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?

  as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..

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  DesirousOfChange

  Thanks Cofty!!!

  GREAT RESPONSE!
  
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  What do you think of the ransom as proof of Jehovah's love?

  by AlainAlam in

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  2. beliefs

  consider these excerpts from the bible and the publications:.

  “no one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his life in behalf of his friends” (joh 15:13).

  “for hardly would anyone die for a righteous man; though perhaps for a good man someone may dare to die.

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  DesirousOfChange

  At this point in time, I tend to agree with Nelson Barbour (who was the early cohort of Chas Russell): Christ's death was no more a settlement of the penalty of man's sins than would the sticking of a pin through the body of a fly and causing it suffering and death be considered by an earthly parent as a just settlement for misdemeanor in his child."
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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

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  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Nearly 50% of the cases in the US are in the NYC and surrounding area.

  Still the increases do not appear to be going up exponentially s they were previously. The graph Simon posted yesterday is encouraging.

  Can anyone tell me if it's OK now to shower or are we still under the "Wash Your Hands" Order?
  
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  Coronavirus Positive

  by snare&racket in

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  hey all,.

  i'm day six of isolation, confirmed to have coronavirus.

  i have been seeing very sick cv positive patients over the last month in my a&e role (emergency physician) it was inevitable i would contract it.. just wanted to give some symptom and treatment advice, it's anecdotal but may help.. started as sore throat and headache, then croaky voice, then dry cough, then episodic transient fevers, all this over the first few days.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Snare, you have us sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for an update.

  We have a family member who is a nurse that just discovered she was exposed to the virus and she is now under observation for a week or so.

  Take care!
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  You heard it here first. U.S. District conventions CANCELLED!

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  prudent decision even if the pandemic is over you are going to have people that.

  lost jobs can't afford to go.

  not allowed any vacation time rest of year.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Conventions have always been "cash cows" for the WTS. Even more so since they've utilized the Assm Halls for many of them. (NO rental fees!) But even at rented facilities, they planned conventions when the facilities were in low demand. Here in the US, there were many convention over the week that had 4th of July, as all non-JW's are involved in holiday activities and convention centers sit idle -- that translates as CHEAP! At some venues, they even bartered for lower (or free) rental rates by having their free labor force to an annual "deep cleaning" or by providing set up and tear down for other events.