DesirousOfChange

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  Tips on a successful stumble

  by Fadeaway1962 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi i don't mean tie my shoe laces together,.

  i realize some theocatic warfare involved (lying) getting fed up with trying to fade .. how do jw family members react?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Our extended JW families sympathize with happened to our family. They realize the Eldubs handled things grossly wrong. Of course, they say Joe Hoover ultimately will settle it all and make all things right. We tell them that we are confident of that also, but if "these kind of things" are going on Borganizationally, there are some real issues that need addressed. Clearly Holy Spirit is not at the wheel or the Chariot. So we are "waiting on Joe Hoover" to make it right. But quite frankly, we are NOT going to "wait in the Kingdumb Hall". Better things to do.

  Thus, if you have a reasonable excuse to "be stumbled", it may be the best solution to start your "fade".

  Good luck!
  
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  Did you enjoy some of these back then?

  by Mandrake in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i was bored to death this sunday, and suddenly i remembered that it could be worse if having to attend the public meeting on a sunday, even worse, not being assigned to the sound department, accomodating, being the mic guy, or reading the wt at the platform... then i realized that i hated just "attending" and sitting at meetings, those "privileges" were the only thing i enjoyed and made my last months inside bearable.... did you enjoy these assignments?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Back when I was a "true Believer", I truly believed (see how I did that?) that I was doing Joe Hoover's Will and "serving" His People and putting Kingdom interests first.

  My wife even then always complained that I erred in putting our family in SECOND PLACE. (I was just trying to earn us all everlasting life!)

  

  I'm just a "slow learner".
  
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  Website for U K Indipendant Inquiry Into Child Abuse

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this inquiry is to consider organizations such as jehovah's witnesses, next month.. here is a link to their site.. www.iicsa.org.uk.

  they are open to hearing from whistleblowers with geniune information and survivors who may not have previously come forward......

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  DesirousOfChange

  Go get 'em guys!
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  Are You Afraid To Publicity Express Your Opinion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are you reticent to express your opinion when it comes to religion or politics?.

  when we were jws , we had to be so careful that we didn’t stumble anyone.

  are you comfortable saying that you don’t agree with someone or something even if it appears you are in the minority?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Yeah. I'm pretty timid about my feelings on things like religion and politics.

  
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  I Got Messed Up on My Medications ... I Knew I Had to Watch the Assembly On-Line This Weekend

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what a weekend.

  i have my normal medications to take; one white pill, one purple pill, one blue pill, one yellow pill ... you get the idea.. but having to watch the regional assembly on-line had me stressed.

  i now realized i accidentally took too many of those big purple pills.

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  DesirousOfChange

  It's taking the RED PILL that "upset the apple cart" in my life.
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  Now we have a Mary Trump book coming out ...

  by RubaDub in

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  2. friends

  i have to admit, this president can stir up shit.

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  other than some people who failed 10th grade or have a confederate flag on the back of their pickup trucks, who actually likes him?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  we read on the news that they had written suicide notes and each was found with 3 shots in the back of their heads. ~ Rub

  OH OH! That could mean Hillary is still planning to jump in at the final hour!
  
  
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  "The Best Convention Ever" - 2020 starts today

  by bats in the belfry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dress up for the show.

  ... and now please be seated.

  proudly presenting your 2020 convention program.. ... and, thank god, for the ff button on my player.

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  DesirousOfChange

  instead of a 2:1 ratio on the orange juice to vodka, maybe a 1:1 ratio would make it a more pleasant experience.

  Now I'm with ya, Dub!

  As a JW I did everything in moderation. Now I'm all about excess!

  Since I'm now borderline diabetic, I might have to skip the OJ.
  
  
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  When did WT lose the spirit?

  by Smiles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.

  like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.

  can we pinpoint a time or event?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I like this kind of approach as well.

  This is not a debate as to whether JWs ever had God's Spirit. This is to get a (doubtful) JW to start thinking.

  I like to ask if all the "weird" chances might be because and "apostate" has infiltrated the higher echelons of the JW Org. Would Jah allow that? He did in the 1980's, didn't he? Remember Ray Franz? (NOT that Ray was an apostate. Just that that is what WTS claims.)

  Lots of JWs are skeptical about all the "New Light". You know what happens once a person begins to question thing...... One domino......two dominoes............BAM
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  Now we have a Mary Trump book coming out ...

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have to admit, this president can stir up shit.

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  other than some people who failed 10th grade or have a confederate flag on the back of their pickup trucks, who actually likes him?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Biden's presidency will most likely be leadership by committee.

  Biden's presidency would most likely be leadership by his VP candidate.
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  Quit Quietly now more than ever

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

  - no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

  make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

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  DesirousOfChange

  We played the "stumbled" card when we had the opportunity. But I guess they were glad to see us go. A couple of calls from "friends". One visit from "new" elders. No longer do we even get a Memorial invitation.

  We're just "waiting on Jehovah" to fix the "problems" we see.