DesirousOfChange

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  Unbelievable Freddie Franz Admissions

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
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  unbelievable admissions.. freddie confesses he fell for his own propaganda.. https://youtu.be/fkjw-r9oitk.

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  DesirousOfChange

  The final part of the final part of the last day.....

  Why do they call them The Last Days(™)?

  Because they last and they last and they last and . . . . . . .

  Anyone else think Freddie sounds a lot like Ross Perot?
  
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  Do You Think “Protestors “Should Be Able To Shut Down Bridges Highways and Hospital Emergency Areas?

  by minimus in

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  some believe protesters have the “right” to block main roads, traffic and other places simply because they have a right to protest something.. in la, two deputies were ambushed and shot in the head and as the ambulance tried to take the fallen deputies to the emergency room, protesters blocked the way chanting they wished the police would die!

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  in nyc blm protesters blocked the george washington bridge and other major highways and streets to protest for their cause.. do you think this is acceptable?

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  Really? It's just stuff and those stores have insurance.

  Really? WTF do you think pays the insurance premiums? YOU AND ME!

  That's like saying anything from the Government is FREE. NO IT ISN'T! Other people have to pay taxes so the Gov't can give free shit to others.
  
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  Is There a Higher Conscious

  by LetTheTruthBeKnown in

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  2. beliefs

  most of the individuals here from what i have read have gravitated to believing in evolution for various reasons and no longer have a belief in a creator.. the questions begs though, is there a higher conscious in the universe than mankind's.

  i am sure everyone agrees that animals are conscious, but to what extent can they reason?.

  here is the link to dr. rupert sheldrake's - is the sun conscious.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfhsobpja8a.

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  I think someone isn't taking their Depakote.
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  BLM ambush two police officers sitting car. Then try to storm hospital saying I hope they die. This is the new left.

  by mickbobcat in

  1. social
  2. current

  https://www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Mick, I think the Dems are planning on a full turnout of "dead" voters. A real Chicago-style election.

  Conversely, I think Trump is setting the stage to contest the election. This could result in another Bush/Gore decision by the SCOTUS.

  If there is nothing conclusive, the decision could go to the US House of Representatives where EACH STATE would be allowed ONE VOTE for who is to be President. There is a majority of red states, thus a Trump win if it goes to a House vote.

  If no decision is made by Jan 20th, Nancy Pelosi would temporarily assume the Presidency. (Dog help us!)
  
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  Do You Think “Protestors “Should Be Able To Shut Down Bridges Highways and Hospital Emergency Areas?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some believe protesters have the “right” to block main roads, traffic and other places simply because they have a right to protest something.. in la, two deputies were ambushed and shot in the head and as the ambulance tried to take the fallen deputies to the emergency room, protesters blocked the way chanting they wished the police would die!

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  in nyc blm protesters blocked the george washington bridge and other major highways and streets to protest for their cause.. do you think this is acceptable?

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  Trump stated what the real solution is -- he just was afraid to follow through on it.

  When the looting starts, the shooting starts. ~ Walter E. Headley, Miami Police Chief (1967)
  
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  BLM ambush two police officers sitting car. Then try to storm hospital saying I hope they die. This is the new left.

  by mickbobcat in

  1. social
  2. current

  https://www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.

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  DesirousOfChange

  The silver lining is they are pushing people in droves to vote Trump.

  Now its off the rails and most of or a majority of the country does not like what its seeing. ~ Mickbobcat

  Mick, I hope you are correct.

  Sadly, the polls don't support your statement.
  
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  So the elders gave my 19 year old daughter a shepharding call depression ensues!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  against our wishes she got baptised at 16 because she got brainwashed by her cousin.

  the last year or so she hasn't been so gung ho about the "truth".

  anyway the elders came down on her for not getting her time in the last couple months because she absolutely hates zoom letter writing.

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  Perhaps you need to "sincerely" question (to her) how she is supposed to have a "five year plan" IF The End(™) is "upon us". (You know the final minutes of the last days BS). Get her to see their contradiction. Get her to reason on these things. Teach her to question everything. (WARNING: A teenager questioning anything can be a real challenge, but they'll be a wiser adult later.)

  DO NOT ATTACK the religion as that will likely cause her to want to defend it or to see you as an adversary. ASK "SINCERE" QUESTIONS and then STFU.
  
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  How do you switch off the thoughts of being raised JW and feelings of anger

  by Zeds Dead in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  raised as a jo blow and married into it.

  37 years in it and now last 7 years out of it which feels great.. have memories of being a kid in school in the uk and just hating everything about being the jw kid.

  bullied, embarrassed in front of others and self-esteem went into the toilet.wished i was born into a different family.. what angers me is the messaging i would receive at home when i talked about being bullied.

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  The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!
  
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  "I still miss it Dad" My 41 Year Son Admitted

  by 1234 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on the 18th of september i turned in my disassociation letter in to the tigard congregation, 19 years ago.. my son turned in his letter in november 2001, 19 years ago shortly after me.

  he was 21 years old.. two days ago we were working together on a wrap for his a/c unit on his bus.. out of blue, he says "i still miss it dad.

  not the religion.

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  DesirousOfChange

  The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!
  
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  How do you switch off the thoughts of being raised JW and feelings of anger

  by Zeds Dead in

  1. jw
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  raised as a jo blow and married into it.

  37 years in it and now last 7 years out of it which feels great.. have memories of being a kid in school in the uk and just hating everything about being the jw kid.

  bullied, embarrassed in front of others and self-esteem went into the toilet.wished i was born into a different family.. what angers me is the messaging i would receive at home when i talked about being bullied.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I spent 50+ years in the JW Borg being "programmed". Wash, rinse, repeat. Wash, rinse, repeat. It really works. Sadly (I suppose), I clearly do not have another 50 years for DE-programming. So we continue to plod along and try to ignore the JW nightmares that resurface from time to time. There is still ONE couple from our former Cong that keeps in limited contact. Truly good friends. (Just like we thought the others all were too!) They are concerned about us. Of course, they are not going to socialize with us if for no other reason, it would look bad for them to do so.

  We've made a great effort to make new friends/associates. That's tough. Most of a person's friends are from the years at school or work. We're past that. If and when we ever do bump into a former JW acquaintance (we found out they were not friends), we put on the Happy Face and assure them that Life is Good! And in reality, LIFE IS GOOD! We have the time to travel (before COVID) without feeling guilty about missing our meetings. While we do wish we had invested more heavily (but we thought the world was soon to end), we try to balance "keeping our eye simple" and enjoying life to the fullest.

  So, I'd say fill your life with other things. Work hard. Live modestly. Invest compulsively. Above all, make new friends. Real friends.