DesirousOfChange

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  Watchtower to be stripped of Charitable status

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  australian senator anna rushton has said that all orgs who "don't take reasonable steps to join the redress scheme" will be stripped of their charitable status come feburary 2021.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/k1pur7/the_jehovahs_witnesses_will_be_stripped_of_their/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share.

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  DesirousOfChange

  OH, OH, WATCHTOWER!

  
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  73 years old, a Witness for 48 years, an elder for 24 years, Baptized just before 1975. WOKE UP!

  by pistolpete in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i thought i would post an encouraging experience i found today.

  i've been seeing a lot of 70-80 year old jws waking up, and their children are posting their experience on reddit.

  these are old elders, pioneers, circuit overseers who have given their everything and finally at the end of their life, are walking away.. maybe the key to waking up is that a person has to have a deep sense of right and wrong.

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  I think there are many older ones that see the problems. My 80+ year old mother does. But they are in a more difficult position than younger persons. It could be much more difficult for older ones to re-establish a complete new network of "friends" (even conditional ones like the JW's). And they likely have no other network -- ie, school or work.

  I've mentioned on this board some of the interesting comments I've heard from older ones in the past few years.

  "I think those guy in NY have gotten something screwed up."

  "I guess I'll have to make it to the New World via the Underground." (Coming to the realization they were indeed going to die, but couldn't just come right out and say the bOrg was wrong.)

  There are many who discreetly say things within their close circle of friends that they feel they can trust, but they know better than to be too vocal about it.

  These older PIMO's are really a "drain" on the bOrg. They need assistance from the younger members and in most cases they are respected and younger members will help them with assistance with their home or transportation to doctors, etc. At the same time, they are cutting back on their contributions because they came up when "Free, Free, Free" was printed on all the literature, and they remember that the (old) bOrg would "never beg for funds" unless the bOrg lost Joe Hoover's blessing. They witnessed the bOrg win 49 cases in the 1950's with the SCOTUS but now they hear of endless losses and settlements in CSA court cases.

  It's no longer the Organization they used to know.
  
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  What useful piece of literature have the JW produced?

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  seeing on another post here about former jws throwing away literature.

  i am curious as to the various opinions on there value.. for me i have been inactive for 3 years almost 4. i still have alot of books and of course all their bibles ever produced (except a few from the 1800s.).

  in my opinion i think there are four books the jws produced that are useful:.

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  Did you notice that anything held in esteem is decades old? I think all those in the Writing Dept then are dead, DFd, or have gotten the hell outta there.

  None of their new milk-toast writings have any significant value. Listen, obey, and get f***ed!
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  What useful piece of literature have the JW produced?

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  seeing on another post here about former jws throwing away literature.

  i am curious as to the various opinions on there value.. for me i have been inactive for 3 years almost 4. i still have alot of books and of course all their bibles ever produced (except a few from the 1800s.).

  in my opinion i think there are four books the jws produced that are useful:.

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  DesirousOfChange

  They produced an abundance of literature that is useful to show that they are False Prophets.
  
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  Ongoing sex abuse story

  by lancelink in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i posted information regarding the first trial earlier this year.

  in today's edition of the northwest herald, .

  https://www.nwherald.com/2020/11/24/crystal-lake-man-church-elder-charged-with-failing-to-report-sexual-abuse-of-child/aqqnlcw/?utm_term=autofeed&utm_medium=nwhfacebook&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=iwar3xf_d3pl9_64pon28lg2uflq0ashmq9sfimdvkzw8etchtac2v__nlir4#echobox=1606305785.

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  Hopefully that State has changed its laws regarding reporting abuse.
  
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  Old Literature 

  by RolRod in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what did you do with your jw literature when you left?

  kept it, sold it or dumped it?

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  While cleaning out the garage we just discovered two huge boxes of Bound Volumes that we thought had been burned long ago. I can't keep them all but which of any have important articles worth saving, such as those that are no longer available or have been changed online? May 22, 1969 Awake! is an example IMO.
  
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  Poor circuit overseersr

  by stan livedeath in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my recollection of cos were they may have been very low paid almost volunteers..but they werent poor.

  most appeared well dressed.

  i knew a few..and they were well connected with wealthy famlies.

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  Other than living in a circuit apartment or travel trailer, most CO's seemed to live better than we did. (Now they have a full house maintained by the circuit.)
  
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  2020-Articles Of Association--Bylaws--Notice Of Special Meeting! (as of 2020-11-25)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2020--articles of association and bylaws--3 pages.. .

  2020--notice of special meeting in december--8 pages.

  if you are a jw read carefully before you sign.. .

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  DesirousOfChange

  thank you in advance
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  King David's Three Choices

  by Jehalapeno in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  editor's note: found this on reddit...thought the meat of the post would be a good post for discussion here as well.. consider the three choices god forced upon david for taking a census.

  these three choices were forced on king david, not for murdering people, not for raping women, not for lying, stealing, or any crime we can think of in our modern world that is repugnant, but simply for taking a census or in other words, counting people.. for counting people, jehovah forced a decision on david that involved the lives of thousands upon thousands of innocent people.. the choices all dealt with the “way” jehovah would kill thousands of unsuspecting loyal worshipers.. 1 chronicles 21.

  “these are the choices the lord has given you.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Remember: "God is Love!"

  Let's review: It's a Cult!
  
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  What’s Your Prediction For The Future Of The Covid Virus?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  will it ever end??

  will a vaccine end this pandemic?

  will it suddenly dissipate if joe biden becomes president?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Just recently heard that friends of our had it go through their entire family. Grandparents in their 50s/60s. Son & DIL in their 30s and their 2yo son.

  Surprisingly the 30-something son, who is healthy and in good shape, is who has had the worst complications. Pneumonia and severe respiratory problems lingering on. I thought the older, overweight, diabetic grandma would have been the one at greatest risk.