Posts by DesirousOfChange

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How many TRUE BELIEVERS do you think are left in the Organization?

by pistolpete in

i have a few jw relatives who are true believers.

by this i mean, they believe with all their heart that 1914 was the beginning of the last days, that this is the last generation, that we are in the very last of the last hour of this system of things, and that you should obey the governing body even if it does not make sense.

all of them are in their 60s and up into their 90s there is nothing you can say or show them to convince them or even cause a small doubt that the wt is not god organization.

DesirousOfChange

How many really just believe in the lifestyle and social community and know that they have to profess "belief" to be part of that and keep their family contacts? ~ Simon

I believe (see how I did that) that this explains at least 50% of active JW's. It's their "lifestyle" just as any Catholic who goes to Mass "believes" all that rubbish. The majority of JW's cannot explain their beliefs. They just go along with the rest of the JW Crowd and remain in "awe" of the GB and the WT Leaders. You can't challenge a belief or have doubts about a belief that you can't even explain. Ask them any serious question that they can't explain and you'll just get an answer like: "Well......., I just know it's The Truth(™)".

Why there is no liberal equivalent to climate change denial

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QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

by gone for good in

a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

here is the document .

https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

DesirousOfChange

by which time you have not been a JW for X amount of time ! ~ Phizzy

Thus that's followed with the announcement: "Phizzy is no longer one of JW's. "

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The Gentile Times are The Time of The End!

by Guard in

hello, brothers.

i don't speak english, but i really want to share what i have.

so sorry for mistakes and style.. so, the all detected parallels (exact connections) between the quotes of daniel 11:44-12:7 and revelation 11:2-18 are:.

DesirousOfChange

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QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

by gone for good in

a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

here is the document .

https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

DesirousOfChange

This would result in the Elders discreetly circulating the "memo" (verbally) that you are no longer one of JW's.

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TO SELECTED BODIES OF ELDERS ASSIGNED TO THE COVID-19

by pixel in

december 25, 2020. to selected bodies of elders assigned to the covid-19.

re: adjustments to arrangements for meeting family food needs during the covid-19 pandemic.

dear brothers:.

DesirousOfChange

separate congregation or circuit accounts should not be set up to fund purchases

The few savvy elders that are remaining should know NEVER NEVER NEVER put funds in a Cong account again. Keep the CASH on hand if you're going to have a "fund" for needy.

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What Will You Be Doing On New Year’s Eve?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i can’t remember the last time i stayed in on new year’s eve.

every year we went out and made this date a real party.

it was a celebration that included a night out, a stay in a hotel , eating, drinking and dancing to live music!.

DesirousOfChange

Freezing rain predicted. For some reason the weather is always shitting on NYE. Considered catching a flight to somewhere warm. Ft Lauderdale maybe. But traveling isn't all that fun anymore. TSA. Flight delays. Walking miles to the gates.Easier to stay near home.

On the other hand -- Local restaurants are closed due to Covid, so no better place to go than our own hot tub with a nice bottle of champagne (if we stay up til midnight).

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How many TRUE BELIEVERS do you think are left in the Organization?

by pistolpete in

i have a few jw relatives who are true believers.

by this i mean, they believe with all their heart that 1914 was the beginning of the last days, that this is the last generation, that we are in the very last of the last hour of this system of things, and that you should obey the governing body even if it does not make sense.

all of them are in their 60s and up into their 90s there is nothing you can say or show them to convince them or even cause a small doubt that the wt is not god organization.

DesirousOfChange

The word "BELIEVERS" is a bit of a problem here.

IMO most JW's have NO IDEA what they believe!

They could no more explain the "time, times, and 1/2 a time" than explain quantum physics. They have no idea WTF this "overlapping" BS is about. All they know is JW dot ORG and that they are "SPECIAL" and only they will be saved and everyone else is "lesser" and will be destroyed and they will inherit all the "booty" left behind.

JW's no longer teach/learn any doctrine. It's just listen, obey, or get shunned.

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Do You Think Trump Will Abandon The Republican Party?

by minimus in

jw
friends

the way he’s talking, i wouldn’t be surprised if he creates a third party .

he’s unhappy with republican leadership.

can you see trump leaving the gop and going rogue?

DesirousOfChange

Frankly, I think we could use a new 3rd Party. The Dems and the GOP are really one and the same. They have both abandoned the middle class, middle American. But I don't mean some fringe group like the Green Party, etc that really doesn't matter in any election.

Trump could have enough influence to start such a thing. He has the grassroots connections to get things rolling. But as mentioned the man is 74 years old. I wouldn't want to be tackling this kind of thing and I'm younger than he is.

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Tech 49: the 3 F's...Fading, Field Service, and Friends

by Tech49 in

here we are, the family and i, moving along in our slow journey to freedom.

although they are unaware, for the most part, our ship is slowly veering off course.

not enough to cause attention, not enough to trigger alarm bells, but just enough.. since the summer dc, i have watched carefully, as the new releases remain on the coffee table, in plain sight, not touched, more of a decoration that anything.

DesirousOfChange

I was excited to see a new message from Tech49 only to see it's a revived one.

Would love to hear how yall are doing!

Doc

Damn hard to believe that is from SEVEN YEARS AGO!

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I miss old posters!

by Biahi in

jw
friends

blondie, flipper, shirley w, where are you?

did this site get too republican for you?

i just take those threads with a grain of salt..

DesirousOfChange

I think we don't see deeper discussions about JW stuff much anymore because JWdom is no longer deep. It has become less and less analytical because it got its butt kicked and is now playing it safe. As some have said, JWdom is morphing into a non-analytical mega church that focuses on feel-good stuff and lifestyle vs doctrine. — MAGNUM

I think that about sums up JWism today. “Where’s the beef?” No longer are there any discussions of the “deeper things“ because there are none. The new JW religion is all about feeling “warm and fuzzy“. And of course, shunning apostates and even “potential“ apostates so that the real TTATT not be revealed to the JW drones.