DesirousOfChange

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  Is jehovahs-witness.com legitimately and reliably independent of WTB&TS and peripheral, aligned entities?

  by great-trivialization in

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  i am new to this forum and uncertain that this is legitimately and entirely independent of conniving jw controllers or the wtb&ts and its related entities.

  markers like the use of jw.org in the forum description and the policies seem controlled/controlling vs other xjw forums.

  this is not an accusation, it is an attempt to know enough to be comfortable with motives of the ownership and controllers of the forum.

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  DesirousOfChange

  If you knew Simon (Owner/Moderator) you'd have your answer.

  
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  Governing Body needs qualified ''early to mid-twenty year old elders''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  https://avoidjw.org/files/en/docs/doc-s/s-147/2022/s-147-22.01-e_bi.pdf.

  avoidjw.org has posted a letter titled, ''announcements and reminders january 2022.''.

  the governing body are always changing bible procedures.

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  I gave up serving as an elder long before I was awakened to TTATT resulting in me giving up on the religion altogether. I cannot imagine why anyone would want to position unless it is a means of giving them fulfillment in their life. Or unless they are a power-hungry lover of the limelight.

  
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  Watchtower New York Answers Complaint in Hines v. Watchtower

  by DNCall in

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  the link to the court's docket in this matter is found here.

  it is a pretty standard answer to complaint, containing denials, some admissions and affirmative defenses.

  now we know that watchtower ny has been served and is participating in this case..

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  DesirousOfChange

  That Complaint sound pretty nasty. I smell a big settlement forthcoming.
  
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  Marc O'Donell's statement: Lloyd and the conflict of Interest

  by Diogenesister in

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  as expected from a man who prioritizes the most vulnerable members of our community, marc has made a sober statement that explains why there's a deep conflict of interest between lloyds recent behaviour and the work they do at jw watch.

  you can read it here:.

  public statement of mark o’donnell.

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  We attended the 50th anniversary of a couple that have been friends of the family for years. (I even dated one of their daughters.) At the party we learned she was 65 years old and he was 75 years old. That means at the time of their marriage she was 15 and he was 25. I believe they were from Arkansas. (US readers will get that.)
  
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  Have you ever thought about this statistic?

  by psyco in

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  forgetting for a moment the past, let us imagine that now we are about 8,000,000,000 people in the world and jws are about 8,000,000.8,000,000 / 8,000,000,000 = 0.1%.this means that satan can mislead 99.9% (100 - 0.1) of the people in the world.after 1,000 years, when humankind will be perfect again, since "the number of these is as the sand of the sea" (revelation 20:8), once again a huge amount of perfect people will get misled by satan.if the reason for this big number was because of the imperfection, that means adam and eve's fault, not so many "perfect" people should get misled by satan in the future paradise.so, could you think that 99.9% of the perfect angels are demons misled by satan?

  if not, why is satan able or allowed to mislead so many more (imperfect and) perfect humans than angels?another question is: if god "does not desire anyone to be destroyed" (2 peter 3:9), why does he allow satan to be able to mislead 99.9% of people since he knows in advance that "many, i tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able" (luke 13:24), and "the number of these is as the sand of the sea" (revelation 20:8), and "go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it" (matthew 7:13, 14)?

  should not it be the other way around as a logical statistic?

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  JW's Lifesaving Ministry results in 1/10th of 1% of mankind being saved.

  1 Tim 2:3-4 says: "3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth."

  Jehovah certainly needs a different PR representative as JW's are doing a pathetically poor job at accomplishing his will.
  
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  WT Lawyers response in Hines v. Watchtower CSA case 2/11/22

  by iloowy.goowy in

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  this is the link to the memorandum of law in the hines v. watchtower csa case filed last friday 2/11/22.https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/viewdocument?docindex=vzujfhgk0etye/azc/kcbg==.

  it is the wt lawyers reply in the trial where deborah hines accuses wt hierarchy even governing body members of continuing to employ a known child abuser, her own dad, at bethel because he was indispensable to them in video-production.

  the slimy wt excuses start on page 7 of 28 where, as far as my non-legally mind can understand, the wt lawyers say the governing body can't get sued because they're not a corporation, nor are they mandated reporters of abuse, meaning they don't have to say anything by law even if they know a crime has occurred.. the slimy wt lawyers are also pretty good at playing with words to hide the fact that the governing body does run the business of the watchtower but from behind the scenes.

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  I did a little research. Only 28 states seem to have mandatory reporting laws for clergy. New York is not one of them.

  I think this did, in fact, occur in New York, did it not? I can see where that would let WT off the hook legally, but they still could be sued in civil court for damages, and especially if it was ongoing after being reported. Let the Court or the Jury decide.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  HTF did someone get those emails? This man is actually dumb enough to leaven them accessible somehow?
  

  The fact that he didn't RUN when he heard her age is appalling.

  Is anyone certain this is for real? It's all so convenient it seems like a set-up. But then why would anyone have such bad motives? (And anyone who knows me here knows I am not defending him!)

  Honestly thought this would have blown over by now, but had no idea he had dug a hole this deep. (Otherwise known as a grave.)
  
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  Bit cut from annual meeting

  by neat blue dog in

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  does anyone have access to the leaked copy of the annual meeting?

  because on part 2 (released as the feb. 2022 monthly program) there is a piece cut out at the 1:30:20 mark..

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  DesirousOfChange

  I met Sam Herd many times. Even hosted him and his wife in our home. He is a pompous ass.
  
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  Who will win: Canadian Truckers or Government?

  by Kosonen in

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  canadian truckers are demonstrating and blocking roads and bridges.

  they demand that all covid restrictions and mandates to be lifted.

  but justin trudeau and his government do not seem to be willing to change anything.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Still hanging on to that 2000 year old book written by goat herders?
  
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  Where do we go from here, the Lloyd-gate?

  by raymond frantz in

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  the problem is where do we go from here?

  lloyd is not going to go away , he has too much to loose(money) neither will his followers go as we have seen the last few days there was hardly a drop to his membership .so what's next?

  we will be branded in the same colours and because of him we won't be taken seriously anymore.

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  DesirousOfChange

  WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?

  Just go away. Don't go away mad. Just go away.

  This is really going to prove to be a Nothing-Burger.

  At the moment, no one cares but ex-JW's.

  In 30 days, we won't give a shit either.