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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  But they did get those dates wrong.

  That doesn’t disqualify them as God’s org or falsify their correct understanding of the Bible. ~ Fisherman
  

  That doesn't disqualify them? Seriously? I thought the Bible makes it clear in Deut 18:20-22:

  20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death." 21 You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?" 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.

  But they did claim to be "God's prophet" (the modern day Ezekiel class) and what they claimed clearly (many times) did not come true. Shouldn't it be clear (even to a JW) that this means they DO NOT speak/represent God?

  But I guess there's a way to weasel out of this too?
  
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  Do you think the brothers who wrote watchtower articles are living in real world?

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  2. bible

  do you think the brothers who wrote watchtower articles are living in real world?........

  david splane........ powerful by faith convention 2021 video.

  please i got an excerpt of this from another video but the response by david splane is not included.

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  I was always under the impression that the airplane frequently used by the GB and WT heavies was a private plane owned by a brother who is an engineer and he covered the expense of its use.
  
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  Resuming door to door September 1st

  by Mikejw in

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  gb worried about not enough coming to in person meetings.

  what are they going to be like when they realise not only jdubs don’t want to go to in person meetings but they really don’t want to go back on the min.

  zoom has so much more appeal for rather than meetings or door to door.

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  I guessing that this return to Field Circus isn't going to get great support and whatever support it gets, most of that time will still be spent at McDonalds or Starbucks (depending on each JW's social economic status.
  
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  Was you or your family ever a local needs talk subject?

  by Foolednomore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  our family was always a topic on a local needs talk.

  but it was funny when the brothers needed money they would come with their hands out.

  this is when we lived in the states.

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  At least once.

  Wear it like a badge of honor.
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  Assembly Dramas:They were so bad.... but.... you waited for them to break away from the monotony!

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  you do remember the four day assemblies... sitting outdoors being fried in the sweltering heat,getting heat stroke in the middle of july in an outdoor baseball stadium.sitting outdoors from 9:45 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. was so much fun while you wore a suit,long sleeve shirt and a tie while your brain fried.

  mom's who had children to take care of,lug strollers,feed all the kids,take them for bathroom breaks and try to not faint from the heat.. the sound and audio was always breaking and barely audible from the wind,airplanes flying over and (if you attended the cicero,illinois circuit )you would smell horse manure from the horse stables next door.. you know that you are a jehovah's witness.... when the only excitement waiting for the drama... where brothers and sisters dress up in ancient cloths,fake beards,fake rocks and fake soldier uniforms and wave their hands incessantly to pretend that they are acting out a drama.the excitement was unbearable!.

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  Reading through all those comments made me realize that I sure do miss Outlaw but surely DO NOT miss the dramas.
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  Do you believe that this life is all there is

  by Fisherman in

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  the bible records resurrections and there is orher evidence besides that gives hope.

  what do you think, is there enough evidence to believe in another life?.

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  Seems that an all powerful, omnipotent GOD could have made certain that his "subjects" were clearly made aware of a future life, if he really wanted to do so, OR, if he is really real.
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  Is burying someone on a golf course tacky?

  by GabeAthouse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  trump's first wife and mother of his children died recently.

  they had her buried on his golf course.

  do you think this is tacky or a savvy business move since it'll now get them some tax breaks as a cemetery?.

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  Tax breaks? Really?

  It is kinda odd that The Donald just now decided to start his own family plot there beginning with an ex-wife.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  LE vids are just a lot of hot air. 2 hours to say 5 minutes worth.

  AMEN to that!
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  In person attendance

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
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  we got the inevitable letter today.. meet, associate and "encourage" in person unless sick or infirm.

  also dress up for zoom if you must use it.

  locally over half are on zoom, 3/4 no picture.

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  I suspect that the real facts are that the GB Heavies (pun intended) are aware that Zoom meetings have made it possible for "faders" to gradually fade. No one is really able to take that attendance count of their "service group" and see who is constantly AWOL.

  IF you don't start showing up in person, you will be on their radar.
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  "New Boy Life and Death at the World Headquarters of the Jehovah's Witnesses'

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  my book was removed from kindle on amazon books for over a year.

  i wondered who had the power to do that?

  anyway it is back up after paying thousands of dollars in extra fees.

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  I read it when it first became available.

  Great reading. In fact I read it in one or two days.

  Don't think a "never-have-been-a-JW" would get much out of it, but any JW would for sure.

  Doc