Posts by DesirousOfChange

they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

DesirousOfChange

Then the other talks with new lite about last minute repentance, this was the ground breaking new lite that means nothing else matters anymore. You don’t have to stay physically in you could wait and see if the GB were right after all. The only ones who know about this new lite are those who were at the AGM or naughty apostates who watched the leaked footage.

PIMOs should be on guard!! The fact that they KNOW of this New Lite would be incriminating if they mention it to the wrong person!

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Will the GB Eventually "observe" Tithing?

by Sea Breeze in

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found this on fb from the recent losch talk.

time for a new business model?.

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DesirousOfChange

We know of a family where all are now POMO, but as they were awakening to TTATT they first stopped reporting time. After the first couple of months, no more calls. Then they stopped attending meetings. Nothing. Then they ceased their monthly donation via the website. Calls started immediately. IS ANYTHING WRONG???????

That clinched it. They were outta there!

I cannot see them doing an "official" tithe, as the Mormons do. (And the Mormons check to confirm.) But, they have already instituted a "suggested" donation on a per publisher basis. That started long ago at Assembly Halls. If the assembly donations came up short of the "suggested" amount, the COBEs were informed and the Cong was to "donate" the balance due on a per head basis.

Now, it appears this average monthly "donation" per person has been implemented on each Cong. They hope that will be the MINIMUM donation for each Cong member (publisher?). Many will give more out of guilt or to show off. Now they will have a fixed contribution amount on which they can depend hitting their bank account every month.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

DesirousOfChange

The top brass at WTS has to be LMAO when seeing the turmoil/contention in the "apostate" community. ("Obviously™, such ones have lost Jeehover's Spirit.")

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New meeting format

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

just watched november broadcast very different order to the leaked agm .

be good if someone did a deep dive on the difference and why the changes?

i didn’t time the items but it should be easy to see if edited?.

DesirousOfChange

There was lengthy discussion of tithing in Israel, with a buildup to the extent that I almost thought they were going to suggest 10% donation or something like that. But no, they left donations voluntary.

PIMO friends tell me that their Cong just asked all Pubs to complete a written form that commits them to a monthly contribution. Said that this commitment is needed so the WTS will know how much they can depend on when considering foreign building projects (new KHalls hahaha) around the globe. No specific amount was suggested, but I expect the elders have been told what is "projected" to be contributed by each Cong based on cost per Pub basis, just like the assembly cost arrangement.

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Reinstatement Procedure

by KerryKing in

what else has changed?.

during the many years i have been df'd the org has printed a new bible, new song book, doctrinal changes, so has anything changed re reinstating someone?.

i'm contemplating the leap for family reasons but due to my job and young family commitments there is no way i would be able to attend every meeting for months on end.

DesirousOfChange

Agree with Sanchy. At least that was the way it worked before I left.

One thing that would weigh in is WHY were you DF? IF "apostacy", or if you are considered "apostate" now, then you'd likely be given much more scrutiny and require a longer show of repentance than if it was just plain ole ordinary things like fornication/adultery, drinking, etc

I think the best approach would be that you see all the things going on in the World and it PROVES that The End is very, very near.

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Trouble everywhere.

by BoogerMan in

a man caused a serious disturbance at a vehicle repair centre today, by screaming at staff that he self-identified as an electric vehicle.. the police were called - but after talking to the man, they said they couldn't charge him!.

DesirousOfChange

A little humor.

If you don't laugh at some of this shit going on, you would have to cry about it.

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BadAss Bethelites, did they really peak in the 1960's?

by was a new boy in

in the 70's a bethel elder told me that every morning in the 60's the paint and scaffold crew, (which was located on the 5th floor of building 4) would go up to the roof and walk around the perimeter on top of the ledge, which i doubt was more than 12" wide.

then they'd go render sacred service to jehovah..

DesirousOfChange

I very well know that being appointed an elder (and esp having any "prominent" privileges) definitely "pulls back the curtain" and opens one up to seeing a lot of the "dirt" that goes on behind the scene.

I suspect Bethel Service often does the same thing.

Let's review: It's a Cult!