DesirousOfChange

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  JWs in Norway lost to the state - will not get state support back

  by BelisemDeBelimakom in

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  translated with google translate:.

  the trial went before oslo district court in january, and now the district court has concluded that the state is acquitted.

  jehovah's witnesses are also ordered to pay court costs of just over nok 1.1 million.. https://www-vg-no.translate.goog/nyheter/innenriks/i/2bljxg/staten-frikjennes-etter-aa-ha-blitt-saksoekt-av-jehovas-vitner-melder-dagen?_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp.

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  DesirousOfChange

  The Norway verdict, in effect, says “JWs are not a religion”.

  In fairness to WT, I find it difficult to agree with that verdict. JW's are clearly a "religion" with millions of adherents worldwide. However, I would understand a Gov't (or anyone) challenging it's status as a "charity'. One could question if the JW religion GIVES anything that is really "charity" when about the only thing they GIVE is information with which to proselytize their religious beliefs. They have no policy in place for any type of charitable giving, ie, financial assistance, medical care, etc. The only time I've witnessed that JW's dp as far as providing that kind of assistance is a casual verbal mention that so-and-so (a member of the Cong, usually a pioneer) needs assistance and Cong members can volunteer financial assistance anonymously or directly. I've never known of the Cong or WTHQ to kick in a dime of "dedicated funds". Cash only flows one way at WT.
  
  
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  My old KH is a house now

  by Gordon in

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  rossville, il, i heard it had disbanded about 15 years ago.

  know, i see someone bought it and turned it into a home, but sadly for them , the bad kh karma did not help the resale value.

  looking at the interior pictures it's hard to see the old kh.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Zillow description notes it was "built in 1975".

  Now THAT is funny!
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  For all JW's: Stop calling others "apostates."

  by BoogerMan in

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  if you don't want to be thrown into gehenna, read what your own faithful evil slave & christ say:.

  cj chap.

  3 p. 110 chapter 3 - "jesus christ said: “whoever says, ‘you despicable fool!’ (apostate) will be liable to the fiery gehenna.” (matt.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I kinda thought some here wore that title like a badge of honor.

  
  
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  The 911 Documentary Video Question

  by Yizuman in

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  i'm trying to find the video of the 911 story where it shows the twin towers up close showing demolition charges going off one by one as an indication that the whole thing may have been a set up.

  it was posted earlier this year but am unable to locate the post.

  anyone have a link to that vid?

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  DesirousOfChange

  So why does a "conspiracy theory" like this not seem preposterous?
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  Radical shake up

  by Mikejw in

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  imagine if all the governing body resigned and a new set of brothers came in and said we are very very sorry for all those who have been disfellowshipped and disassociated over the years.

  we know many mistakes have been made.

  we are really genuinely sorry to all those who have been hurt and especially those who have died and been hurt by these mistakes.

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  Déjà Vu

  Doesn't that kinda describe what is happening? Or at least there seems to be a good start to it all.

  Will it make an iota of a difference to most of us here. Doubt it!
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  Elderly and sick: Out of sight, out of mind

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

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  someone else posted something a similar experience, this is one i had regarding my mom.my mom died last year.

  she had been in failing health for years, but the last 2 year were pretty rough for her, with lots of visits to the hospital.

  the last 4 months, it was the hospital, a skilled nursing facility/rehab unit, and finally, a nursing home.

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  DesirousOfChange

  My mother has been hospitalized a couple of times in the past year. She is an old "pillar" in her small town Congregation. Unlike all the experiences above, I am absolutely shocked by the response from her Cong elders and all of her JW friends. Nearly all of the elders visited on the visit when she was extremely ill and she was in a hospital nearly an hour from home.

  More recently, her cell phone died from all the calls on her first day admitted (as she had no charger) and once home, her phone was ringing constantly. Numerous times I was speaking to her and she cut me off because "so-and-so" is calling.
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  20 years ago, Paul Hoeffel's UN/Watchtower letter

  by was a new boy in

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  https://www.un.org/en/civil-society/watchtowerletter.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/76847/best-wts-un.

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  My first thought was: They thought this would die down and just go away.

  After writing it and thinking, Here it is! Twenty years later!, but I concluded that they were right. I think not one JW is aware of this. This is something you discover AFTER you leave because it just is not out there because NO ONE ELSE CARES.
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  Attended the KH recently and found it to be thoroughly therapeutic.

  by joe134cd in

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  i had to attend a family event recently which involved attending the kh.

  before i went i had it in my mind this was going to be a different experience.

  tbh i’ve had an interest in super hero socks.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I observed another brother there on the dance floor looking some what intoxicated.

  Not sure what part of the country/world you live, but I've never seen dancing at a funeral "wake" or the "after party". Not at all unusual to see the beer/booze flow and the "some what intoxicated" (esp at the big Catholic family funerals), but never, ever dancing.
  

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  Dates and times

  by jhine in

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  last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .

  we have been working through the whole letter.

  verses 1-11 start with .

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  DesirousOfChange

  Luke 1:8 doesn’t say that. Did you make a mistake?
  @ MIKE JW - It's Luke 21:8

  DAMN! My "2" key has been playing games with me. Sometimes it just doesn't work. I did not catch it that time. Guess I need to break down and get a new keyboard.

  Good catch, Mike!

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  Finding Neverland

  by Freeorange in

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  add bookmark.

  #1. i have to start off this post by saying i am not intending to insult or offend.

  these are just our observations over our entire lives in the org.

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  DesirousOfChange

  She will be required to explain why she lived a life of rebellion against Jesus when he commanded all to partake of the New Covenant "for the forgiveness of sins"

  OR, she'll rot in her grave and never miss the passage of time one iota.

  "I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it." ~ Mark Twain