Posts by DesirousOfChange

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The Jehovah's Witness religion has ''Jumped the Shark''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

what does jump the shark mean?.

the phrase “jump the shark” is a term in pop culture that originated from the tv show “happy days” and is used to describe a decline in quality.

it refers to the moment when a tv show or other product has reached its peak and starts to decline in quality.

DesirousOfChange

It seems they have to get them pre teen to be unbaptised publishers and then get them baptised before they have the mental capacity to think for themselves

Exactly! Then they have them in their clutches with the threat of taking away all of their friends and most of their family.

BUT, this is the exact thing that was the "GOTCHA" in Norway. The fact that a person (esp a youth) cannot choose to leave without serious ramifications is a violation of Human Rights.

WT may not care about violating Human Rights, but they sure as shit care about losing their status as a religion/charity and losing the MONEY!

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2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???

by Witness 007 in

1914 generation is long gone.

1975 was a joke 40 years ago.

i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?

DesirousOfChange

It is pretty easy to get their grift, unless you are just gullible.

A lot of us were pretty damn gullible for a long time. Way too long in my case. It seems a lot of people are still that gullible.

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ARTICLE: Jehovah’s Witnesses investing more than $50M on Woodbury project

by AndersonsInfo in

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friends

https://libn.com/2024/03/04/jehovahs-witnesses-investing-more-than-50m-on-woodbury-project/.

long island business news.

march 4, 2024. the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses, which bought the former geico property in woodbury for $27 million in dec. 2022, plans to spend at least another $23 million to build an assembly hall and two support buildings on about half of the site.

DesirousOfChange

I can see NO GOOD REASON for purchasing this property other than consolidating nursing facilities for retirees.

THAT WOULD BE A SHOCKER! WTS has always had the practice of sending retirees (or just those who are past their prime) "back to field" -- meaning "go get a job" or if it's older COs or DOs, they just send them to a Cong that has an apartment and enough affluent JWs to care for them.

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ARTICLE: Jehovah’s Witnesses investing more than $50M on Woodbury project

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

https://libn.com/2024/03/04/jehovahs-witnesses-investing-more-than-50m-on-woodbury-project/.

long island business news.

march 4, 2024. the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses, which bought the former geico property in woodbury for $27 million in dec. 2022, plans to spend at least another $23 million to build an assembly hall and two support buildings on about half of the site.

DesirousOfChange

FIFTY MILLION?

It does not appear like they are so hard up for money as their monthly videos have suggested.

The assembly hall, which will have about 2,100 auditorium seats and parking for about 700 vehicles, will be used almost exclusively on weekends for about 75 days a year, according to a Jehovah’s Witnesses website for the project.
There are more than 8,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses congregants in Nassau and Suffolk counties who meet at 21 Kingdom Halls throughout the Island

8000 JWs in 21 Kingdom Halls -- That only accounts for about 10 days to be used for Cir Assm & Spec Assm days. Maybe another 10 weekends for Reg Convs.

Gosh! Wonder what the daily "contribution" per publisher will be to use the new Assm Hall?

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New light on shunning?

by Mikejw in

one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.

he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .

what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.

DesirousOfChange

Wasn’t there a change in the past about 50 years ago or something like that where they relaxed the rules on shunning? ~ Tonus

In addition to what Tonus stated, back in the 1970's there was a period of time when the shunning was relaxed towards DF who were not continuing to practice sin and not opposers to the WT, such as someone attending with the intent to be reinstated.

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the toll of being PIMO

by enoughisenough in

for those of you who are pimo, how do you feel it may be effecting your mental and physical health?

is it easy to pretend to be what you are not?

how do you feel about falsely supporting the pimi which builds them up and therefore an org you don't believe in?

DesirousOfChange

During this time (8 years). I was a man without an identity, lost.... only a shadow of a person.
My heart goes out to each and every xjw because most go through something like this.

SeaBreeze, when I read your post, I was overwhelmed with memories of that empty feeling. "Without an identity" defines it well. I had been a very respected, "prominent" elder (circuit & district parts, delegate and speaker at an international assembly). Then there was that moment I came to the realization that I was NOT in "The Truth". Everything I had believed came crashing down. I was able to see beyond the curtain. It was all A LIE!

Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain - Katherine Walden

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1970's Russell Pyramid Photo!

by Atlantis in

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1970's photo of the russell pyramid.

the picture was sent to us by a former bethelite who was also the person who took the picture.

of course, the pyramid is not there anymore.. .

DesirousOfChange

Click the link -- Had no idea it was so big!

(That's what she said.)

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2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???

by Witness 007 in

1914 generation is long gone.

1975 was a joke 40 years ago.

i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?

DesirousOfChange

FOX 13's Paul Dellegatto - Yes, it's so cold even Hell has frozen over. | Facebook

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Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

by NotFormer in

does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

DesirousOfChange

I was actually trying to be sarcastic, ~ NotFormer

This has been a learning experience. Now you know that one has to "ring the sarcasm alert" so you don't confuse some of the slow learners.

(Hope I did not come across as nasty posting this. I assure you, no malicious intent.)

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ARTICLE: Jehovah’s Witnesses investing more than $50M on Woodbury project

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

https://libn.com/2024/03/04/jehovahs-witnesses-investing-more-than-50m-on-woodbury-project/.

long island business news.

march 4, 2024. the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses, which bought the former geico property in woodbury for $27 million in dec. 2022, plans to spend at least another $23 million to build an assembly hall and two support buildings on about half of the site.

DesirousOfChange

From the link above:

"He was dismissed and discredited by the WT in February, 2024."

Discredited. WOW.