DesirousOfChange

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  Biden calls Trump supporters garbage

  by moomanchu in

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  a comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???

  potus pappy joe to the rescue!!

  he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .

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  DesirousOfChange

  I'm sure they consider the photo-op a success as he didn't actually fall on is face.
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  2024 year Highlights: JWs hit 9 million Publishers

  by Sanchy in

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  watchtower put out some highlights for the 2024 service year:.

  average publishers: 8,828,124. peak publishers: 9,043,460. a 43.2 percent increase in "those who returned to jehovah", meaning 65,816 were reinstated.

  baptized: 296,267. memorial attendance: 21,119,442. missing stat: number of partakers .. womp womp.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Blondie's chart seems to indicate steady growth through the years, though slowing after 2016 (which was before Covid). I guess this is when there was considerable sell off of poorly producing (of contributions) congregations.

  IDK if I believe that number of congregations is that indicative of anything. All reports on attendance are that it is on a serious downtrend. ZOOM attendance is questionable as any kind of "attendance". I personally know some who admit they sign on, but without camera, and thus are able to go about with whatever task they really want to be doing -- watching TV, whatever, etc

  Clearly there is no zeal or urgency. The JWs I know personally and via reports from JW family are all vacationing big time. Nearly everyone has made at least one international vacation and very often they are to Europe. (That's probably a bigger deal for US citizens than others. Traveling to an international destination other than ie, Cancun is fairly expensive and a 10 hour flight.) You wouldn't know they are worried about the cost of milk and eggs.
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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  DesirousOfChange

  As usual, when you pop the hood and look at the engine, you find out that instead of a Chevy all you got was a toy from Fischer-Price. ~ Sea Breeze

  I hope you haven't been talking to my wife!
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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Thank you Sea Breeze. That is very informative. I have not seen anything that extensive in refuting the claim. I suspect no one else ever bothered to invest the time & effort into the matter.

  (Of course, my post was NOT in any way suggesting that the "Rhodes" claim had ANY real merit.)

  Doc
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  End within 2 years (again)

  by road to nowhere in

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  an old elder friend from out of town stopped to see my ailing wife.

  more than the locals do.

  he said elder school emphasized 2 years and the existing body will be the leaders through persecution and tribulation.

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  There are rumours that Samuel Herd is leaving GB and that will be announced soon.

  Good odds that announcement could be in the form of an obituary.
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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  DesirousOfChange

  You don't think the fact that none on the "translating committee" had any degrees in the original biblical languages had anything to do with it? Only one had a 2 hr. survey course in Koine Greek.

  Whoa!

  Fred Franz was a Rhodes Scholar!

  Or was it Road Scholar?

  Does it matter? He was a really smart guy!
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  To whom should Christians pray to?

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  it is funny how christians argue back and forth over the father, jesus christ and make it look as the father and the son are are loggerheads over supremacy.. even who to pray to between the father and jesus are means to create rivalry.

  it boils down to this, your essence of being a christian goes beyond those unending argument making jesus a rival of his father.

  psalms 65: 2. o hearer of prayer, to you people of all sorts* will come.. john 14: 13 also, whatever you ask in my name , i will do this, so that the father may be glorified in connection with the son.

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  "Believers" won't watch this as their Cognitive Dissonance would cause them too much mental anguish.

  Pray to a Milk Jug
  
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  Ramapo project approved

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

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  news is that the ramapo project has been approved by authorities and can move forward..

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  I think it is to be a video production facility. Would be kind of pointless without power ~ Lee

  I think you missed the AFTER ARMAGEDDON part.

  They claim they need to build these properties even though Armageddon is just around the corner as they will use these new properties even after Armageddon, as though the electricity grid will remain unharmed and power plants, of course, will continue to operate via "miracle".
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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  Meeting attendance

  by Farmer Jim1 in

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  for those still in the organization what is your meeting attendance like these days?.

  when i left in 2017 there were around 80 publishers and the average meeting attendance was 70..

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  DesirousOfChange

  In our area, at least 5 Congs have been closed/merged and thus the pub count has increased in the remaining nearby Congs so it's really difficult to compare stats from the past.