I think it depends on the situation, the parents & the elder in question. there are still some elders out there who are probably good men & only desire to help. Yep, most are ares holes i grant you, but how many ex elders do we have on the forum & i'm willing to bet some of them really had a care what happened to the young ones. Kept things confidential. As a parent though the main responsibility should fall on your shoulders. When it comes to grassing others up, most teens clam up, cause their lives are made miserable.
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17Question: refuse, or limit to collaborate with elder inquiry?
by prologos inshould a teen, a child of a believing mother, cooperate in the fact-gathering of the elders into the waywardness (not sex related, hopefully) of some local teenagers?
what scenarios can you see playing out?
all teens to clam up?
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Feeling A Bit Down Today
by jacobm inhey y'all, .
i'm not sure about you, but i occasionally get those days where i feel a bit down, as if i have no friends.
i do have a number of great friends, though, and am very thankful for them.. i think it might have to do with the residual programming of having a "worldwide brotherhood".
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Big Hug. Yes i have those days also. I think sometimes we imagine that we are missing out on something, that the jdubs are all in their gang having fun when we are alone. The truth is they are not, they in general are miserable & blame the world for all their problems. If you listen to them for 5 mins can you pick up that they are trying to convince themselves that they are happy more than anyone else. -
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Went for my first legal session today.
by umbertoecho inthe arc are indeed a patient lot who don't pressure.
they make sure a person feels safe.
they don't hold back with legal information either.
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Ok, just received my memorial invitation.
by Je.suis.oisif inmornin' all.
saw the jdubs going from door to door just now.
uk time 10:15 am.
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jw family loves to ask df'd ones for money!
by Ghiagirl inwell it finally happened!
we have been waiting about a year for this, my dfd husbands family asked us for money.
even though his own father hasn't met our 8 month old son.
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I agree with every one else here, how dare they. You have a son that they haven't even seen, shame on them. Tell them to go f...k themselves, change your number & shun them. The Bastards. -
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Evaluating the problem of sexual abuse of children within the JW religion, why, how and for what reason
by Finkelstein inthis topic has come up many times before on this forum and others but i think its worthy to reevaluate where and how this problem exists from an analytical perspective within the jw religion.
it is obvious that the wts has been covering up situations of child sexual abuse with careless irresponsible apathy for decades toward both possible victims and potentially identified perpetrators of this socially repugnant crime.
following guidelines as written in the bible which were emulated and exploited as a self protecting guideline to protect the outward image of the organization overall in spite of known acknowledgement that pedophilia is a serious crime in most countries.
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You know what you can go round & round in circles trying to work it all out, the why,wheres,& how's. The bottom line is this, the WTBTS is full of child abuse, sexually/physically/mentally/emotionally & they as an organization couldn't give a flying fuck.
Rutherford lived in luxury while all around him people were starving, did he care? NO. Did he do anything about it to help ease the situation for others? NO. He sat back on his fat arse & enjoyed all the luxuries that the donations provided him with. This lot are no different, they don't care, THEY DONT CARE. Get it.
Tell me when you ever heard any one stand on the platform & read a letter from the GB that said: Now Brothers & sisters we want you to know that the abuse of a child, any child is in no way acceptable. Jehovah hates that kind of behaviour & anyone no matter the position they hold will be thrown straight out of the congregation & reported straight away to the police, because they have acted like a complete bastard.
Never, you have Never heard that read out, WHY? cause they don't give a shit.
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"I hope Disfellowshipped ones do not attend the Memorial"
by AFRIKANMAN ind---head comment ...by someone called jay witness on that forum-.
what a smug bunch of pharisees they breed !
"""it makes me feel odd to invite tons of worldly people who are obviously fornicators and idolaters and then not be able to even show a little love such as a "hello" to a disfellowshipped brother or sister.
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Yes but did you read one of the comments LOL
"Our current J.W. policy says we should continue to not acknowledge their presence once they do show up."
" It is good for them not to forget the love from which they have been banned."
Can you believe that some idiot wrote that, i have given myself a tummy ache from laughing.
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Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me
by elderess inonly a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.
then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.
thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.
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Elderess, I will say don't tell them, or don't give them to much info, just say you don't want to talk about it, something happened & you & hubby need some time. The reason I say this is because the longer you are away from the borg the cooler they (kid's) become towards you. Mine hardly phone if they do especially the oldest there is little she has to say to me, however at least for the mo I can have contact & talk about past things we did as a family, reminders if you like that are positive & tell them that I love them. I'm just bidding time I know, but maybe something will stay with them.At the end of the day you have to do what is best for you. -
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Evaluating the problem of sexual abuse of children within the JW religion, why, how and for what reason
by Finkelstein inthis topic has come up many times before on this forum and others but i think its worthy to reevaluate where and how this problem exists from an analytical perspective within the jw religion.
it is obvious that the wts has been covering up situations of child sexual abuse with careless irresponsible apathy for decades toward both possible victims and potentially identified perpetrators of this socially repugnant crime.
following guidelines as written in the bible which were emulated and exploited as a self protecting guideline to protect the outward image of the organization overall in spite of known acknowledgement that pedophilia is a serious crime in most countries.
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Fade Fail: Not as Easy as I'd Like
by Hadriel inthis has been tough.
very tough actually.
because i'm so integrated into things including certain tasks which i can't say as it would be a dead giveaway i find myself constantly bombarded by things.. i'm literally a lying every day.
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Hadriel have read the book by Bonnie Zieman, Exiting the JW Cult?. well worth taking a look at. Helped me tremendously & many others on the forum.