Terry that is nice, i'm glad you were treated well. There are some wonderful JW who truly don't know what is going on or no so fully. Yes you had a right to feel hurt, it's no petty i think. John also had a right to be upset with you saying private stuff without his giving consent. He was caught of guard maybe shocked at the time. You can let it all go now though & be left with the happy memories of your friendship.
Posts by Sabin
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13Last Night I was surrounded by Jehovah's Witnesses . . .
by Terry inlast night was the "body viewing" at the funeral home for the jw whose friendship and influence resulted in my getting baptised in 1963. we weren't just friends.
we had a david & jonathan bromance :) no seriously, we loved each other dearly.. it's only in the last 2 years he shunned me.
before that, he would sneak behind the curtain of stealth, so to speak, and we'd sit for hours each and every week chatting, reminiscing and sometimes arguing about the truth about the "truth.".
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"mum, i been naughty, i'm disfellowshipped."
by Sabin inso last night we get a phone call from our girl & she tells me the above.
turns out she has been d'ed for a month.
infact she made me turn off the speaker phone so her dad wouldn't hear & i could tell him quietly later.
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Azor, that is horrible. What a wicked bunch. Flowers for you, & a hug.
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"mum, i been naughty, i'm disfellowshipped."
by Sabin inso last night we get a phone call from our girl & she tells me the above.
turns out she has been d'ed for a month.
infact she made me turn off the speaker phone so her dad wouldn't hear & i could tell him quietly later.
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Lisa rose, i got the first book, brilliant read but had forgotten bout the 2nd. I'll get it. Thanks for the reminder.
JKR, yes that is a good idea i'll use that if anyone dares to speak to me.
you know what your supposed to do but in the moment emotions run away, i think that worries me more then anything. It is getting her to separate God from the Borg. That is what my husband reckons the biggest prob is. He said last night these idiots think if you speak against the WTBTS then you speak against God they have put the society above God, Jesus & the bible so rank & file follow what they say without question, without research, without even thought. I did that. I was an idiot & i'm no afraid to admit it.
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"mum, i been naughty, i'm disfellowshipped."
by Sabin inso last night we get a phone call from our girl & she tells me the above.
turns out she has been d'ed for a month.
infact she made me turn off the speaker phone so her dad wouldn't hear & i could tell him quietly later.
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atomant, i have D'ed myself & yes i was treated really well. People in the cong cared about me, missed me & that didn't stop for years. The elders always made sure i had my mags, a seat at the hall, they spoke to me blah blah blah. I was however one of the lucky one's. Since living on the Gold coast i can assure you, the level of cruelty inflicted on ones even before they are D'ed is horrific. These one's wouldn't call an ambulance if they saw a D'ed person run down in front of them. I got the subtle death threat even when i was struggling to get to the hall. You need to read the Organized to do Jehovah's will book pg 158, they do this to kid's for f...k sake. If we are brought up in a good family then we can neglect to understand the feelings of one's that have been abused. The same goes for our experience's within the borg. People often make the mistake of not caring because it hasn't happened to them, so it doesn't matter then that it happens to someone else. The thing is it does matter doesn't it? or at least it should? -
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"mum, i been naughty, i'm disfellowshipped."
by Sabin inso last night we get a phone call from our girl & she tells me the above.
turns out she has been d'ed for a month.
infact she made me turn off the speaker phone so her dad wouldn't hear & i could tell him quietly later.
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They have no issue with me going to stay with her. They said well that is your mum. i'm just not supposed to talk to her about spiritual stuff. Her sister who's husband is an elder is allowed to talk to her on the phone but no spiritual stuff. She said they have been amazing. -
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"mum, i been naughty, i'm disfellowshipped."
by Sabin inso last night we get a phone call from our girl & she tells me the above.
turns out she has been d'ed for a month.
infact she made me turn off the speaker phone so her dad wouldn't hear & i could tell him quietly later.
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"mum, i been naughty, i'm disfellowshipped."
by Sabin inso last night we get a phone call from our girl & she tells me the above.
turns out she has been d'ed for a month.
infact she made me turn off the speaker phone so her dad wouldn't hear & i could tell him quietly later.
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So last night we get a phone call from our girl & she tells me the above. Turns out she has been D'ed for a month. We are the last one's to know about it. Infact she made me turn off the speaker phone so her dad wouldn't hear & i could tell him quietly later. Of course i wasnt about to let that happen cause i knew he would be great about it. Him not being a JW & all that. I'm going to stay with her for a bit & she 100% knew we would never shun her NEVER, yet she didn't want us to know. Brazen conduct, she got off with a boy, no intercourse but she has been putting herself in bad situations. LOL. She said to me "when i was pioneering, go out in the ministry, all the meetings & socializing i was lonely, now that i am D'ed i am not any more." So i replied "what does that tell you?" her "Satan is a bastard." she is completely defending the Borganization. I can't believe it. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. She is going to all the meetings, she wants back in. These people in this borg have treated her like shit, they have put her through so much, bullying, lies, ignoring her, excluding her, dropping her, & that is all before she got D'ed. Now they are love bombing her to get her back, she isnt being shunned, the elders are helping her. Anyone got an explanation for that? I think they are trying to get her back before she has a chance to find out anything about what is really going on in the borg. So i emailed a friend for advice, look at jwfacts, which i have done but she will not as it is considered apostate. We are so alike, passionate, so i'm worried i'm gonna blow it with my big gob, getting all emotional. My husband said she gonna go back i have to except it. So do you think they are taking a new approach now towards some of the young ones since the ARC or is there some other motive. -
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Gut Feelings - The Second Brain
by Xanthippe ini came across a link on the bbc site this morning to an article in scientific american on gut health claiming that one reason we need to keep our guts healthy with probiotics, a good diet and reducing antibiotics is because there are neurons in our gut that are part of the process to create dopamine and serotonin for the brain.
yes happy hormones and neurotransmitters!
amazing article.. 'the enteric nervous system is often referred to as our body’s second brain.
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I am so glad that this is on here, people dont recognize how important the gut really is. When i've tried to tell friends about this they look at me like i'm nuts. I see a psychologist, she is the top of her field, trains other psychologists, has published works, goes to other countries to give talks ect. Needless to say the woman knows her stuff. About 2 yrs ago i was telling her that this old bag of a sister that was coming round every week just to put me down, sat across the table asked me what i had for dinner. I told her, she asked if i had made it myself, i said no. she said nothing but gave me this look. I heard her say "if i had cooked that i would have made it myself" i heard the criticism, in my stomach. She (psychologist) started to smile, she had just come back from a convention in Hawaii & told me that it has been recognized that people who come from serverly abused back grounds hear with their stomachs. You know what i did? i started to listen to it. 95% of serotonin is made in the stomach, so i ate a piece of dark chocolate everyday, & drink 2 tbls of apple cider vinegar which alkaline's the body. Wanna know what it told me, it told me i was in a f...king cult. I'm a big fan of gut feeling. We all need to do abit of tummy talk, the more i let it speak out the flatter it seems to be getting.
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I can't take it anymore!
by BlackWolf inmy dad was recently made an elder about maybe 6 months ago, and now he is never around he's always at work or doing some kind of jw crap.
now he conducts the watchtower study and is even doing the special talk tommorow.
he's become an even more strict controlling jerk than he was before, and i'm never allowed to go out and do anything non jw related because he doesn't have the time.
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Sounds to me like your dad doesn't even want to be an elder if he is already acting that way. If he was truly happy bout it then he would be on a high. Most men don't want the responsibility cause they know it is all shit right deep down. They just go along with it out of obligation, fear or they just haven't yet worked out they are being conned. I know that doesn't make it any easier on you. The Borg love to put pressure on families, it 's begining to look as if they want them torn apart. More control. The Bastards. Keep your pecker up Black Wolf. Keep looking for ways to build friendships with one's outside the cong. Hugs. -
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I COLLECT QUOTES. . . Here are some of my favorites
by Terry inplease post your favorites too.
my favorite quotations:.
you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.. don’t think of cost.
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Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
If you cant give the things you own away, then you don't own them, they own you.
When they stop talking to you that's when they start talking about you. The Bastards.
I never went to bed with an ugly man, but I've woke up next to a few.
I'm the kind of dirty you cant wash off.