now don't get mad or even upset with me and make me feel bad for asking..but how come you do not use your name?
i know you want to be "unknown or incognito" but will someone really know its you if you are debbie from texas?
or mary from ohio?
Helen, when I first came out, my thoughts were the same as Waiting's. I did everything I could to keep family peace. Now, I really don't care, and you can find my name on the thingy next to my handle, so why do I use LARC instead of Carl, because I like to keep it light hearted most of the time and Larc denotes this.
Q; does this count as field service and if it does do I multiply the time to write a post times the number of people who read it.??
hey y'all,.
found this on h20 by duncan, thought it was quite believable, sad to say.. .
...well, perhaps those last two were, but really, he didnt know.
Waiting, re, anger
yeh there's stuff along the way that made me angry, one was the fact that I used more tact than they did, I did everthing I could not to offend them.
Couple stories: went to my cousin's husband's funeral. He had died in a traffic accident, never was exposed to the "truth". My cousin had left after childhood like I had and became a Church member. At the funeral a JW relative said loud enough for all to hear that my cousin, Sue, would die at Armageddon, but her dead husband would be resurrected because he never knew the "truth' like Sue did. Even it the relative believed this, she should have kept it to herself. A funeral so no place to say shit like that.
My sister did not call us for 15 years except when she had a big problem that she couldn't share with her sister's in the truth, because of their very judgemental nature. She would call my wife and pour her heart out. My wife would listen sympatheticly, and console her. Then, we wouldn't hear from her again for another year or so.
My sister and I get along fine now, but what she did earlier really pissed me off.
I just got a scare. I looked up on my Web tv, where the globe turns and the green line goes across the screen; underneath it read "contacting publisher". I thought that the WT had tapped my line and had assigned someone to knock on my door. Well, if they do I'll just tell them that I'm busy now. I'm in the back room preparing to sacrifice a goat and drink its blood.
Waiting, I live in a bomb shelter waiting for the end of the world, actualy, JAVA and I live in the same city, and are good friends. I met him when he first came out. Early on, we spent many Sunday afternoons drinking coffee and talking about all the stuff in our heads....JAVA and I have several things in common: we both work for coffee, we both like Yellow Springs (my yongest daughter, the one that grandma thought was demon possessed, see my posting under new truths, has a health food store there) and JAVA and I both have warped minds, you might ask him to send you are recent coorespondence, if he saved them, I should have but didn't.
Story about my daughter: One day when Jan and I were out, my daughter, who was on her way out as well met JWs at the door, she told them that her parents used to be part of it, but found that "truth comes from all directions, remember Jah loves." "Oh, and I'll be glad to take you magazines; thank you" and off to her car she went (Jah loves is a Rosta term my daughter learned on St. Croix where she lived for two years, "ya, maun"
hey y'all,.
found this on h20 by duncan, thought it was quite believable, sad to say.. .
...well, perhaps those last two were, but really, he didnt know.
I'm curious as to what you mean by being on the "outer edge" Inquiring minds want to know.
hey y'all,.
found this on h20 by duncan, thought it was quite believable, sad to say.. .
...well, perhaps those last two were, but really, he didnt know.
Waiting
I'm sorry for coming on so strong. I was irritated that you didn't believe me at first, but then I found out from your later post that you did after I sent more detail.. Again I apologize.
I'm a 60 year old Yankee, tho Grandfather Teel moved to Ohio from Greenville North Carolina circa 1920 and brought his sisters, Berta, Lona, Carrie and Rae and brother George with him. His father had died in a hunting accident ten years earlier (the family believes that it was no hunting accident, rather he was assinated by the KKK for hiring black people to work on his farm). My grandfather as the oldest had the responsibility of getting the family out of poor conditions.
Up north all four sisters became "Bible Students." Berta went to a convention in Europe with a woman my mother called "the Coca Cola heiress" Berta met Rutherford there and at some point she moved to Bethel. Her husband did not file for divorce until two years after she abandoned him.
My mother told me that in the 1940's Rutherford bought 100 dollar silk shirts. What would that be in today's dollars? My mother was a very zealous Witness and had no animosity towards either Rutherford or her aunt. In fact, she had very high regard for both of them. So any of her accounts are not negatively biased. By the way, this is not easy to talk about. I've only shared this information with two other people, Jim Penton and Leonard Critean, before these postings.
Rutherford drank the finest wiskey and smoked the best cigars. His living quarters took up one entire floor of Bethel.
I have a new thread called new truths. I'd like your imput on it. As you can tell from my earliest posts, humor helps me deal with it all.
"You shall know the truth and it will send you to the nearest exit"
Larc 17:3
one of canada's biggest bands is our lady peace.
here's a great song from their just released album "spiritual machines".
how many times have you been pushed around.
"how many times did your friends let you down" your friends here won't let you down
I really liked your post about this past year
RHW,
Regarding the NAWM, even though I am only two days younger than dirt, and have more seniority than you, I will admit that I just got the idea the day of the posting, so perhaps we could be co-founders. I'll even give up the presidency if I can be treasurer.
(I had to guard my thinking when you used the word merger.)
JAVA: it's hard to fool a like minded person.
i am a newcomer and have thoroughly enjoyed the last couple weeks communicating with all of you.. i have generally kept abreast of the new truths, but am not clear on some details.
for example, as of about 1986, college is now ok, but i think it is supposed to be limited to degrees and subjects that are directly job related.
what are the written and unwritten rules on this subject?.
I forgot to mention that the sofa is just an example. Demons could reside in any object that came from a worldly source. BTW, why would demons inhabit worldly people's goods? Satan has already got them. Seems to me, that it would be a better allocation of Satan's resources if the demons only pestered JW's. The theory does have some holes in it.
it seems to me that witnesses and the wtbts live by a number of double standards.
for example: witnesses are taught that they have a sacred duty to meet and talk to non-believers (field service).
yet if they meet and talk to a non-believer who happened to be a witness and disassociated themselves they face severe punishment (disfellowship).
Thinker,
When I was in my late teens, I went to used book stores, purchased, and read the old books. I was appalled at what I found. In recent years, I have attended conferences sponored by BRCI and listened to their personal accounts. Almost all of them left because of what they found in the old books. The WT keeps people so busy in mundane actiivties that most people don't take time for historical research. What compounds the problem is that most people aren't interested in history.
BTW, their own history book is full of errors, misleading statements, omissions and down-right lies.
