i have to share this great valentines day experience with you.
i was in class today and this young, good looking guy came in with about 4 dozen, beautiful long stemmed roses.
he gave one to every female in class(old, young, thin, fat,gay, straight) who didn't have a valentine!
H4L,
What a great story. Thanks. Yesterday was my first Vday and hubby & I had a great time.
I wonder though, men being what they are, how big a loser would a girl doing the same thing be perceived as?
Women being what we are, wouldnt you be afraid of attracting all the losers in the place?
down here in da dirty sowth we all abot some awak!
and wactower.
i knows this jesus's word direcing us in our every step.
For a smart guy like you I bet thinking up all those Deep South spellings gave you a headache!
I love the joke even more when I think about all the effort that went into it.
down here in da dirty sowth we all abot some awak!
and wactower.
i knows this jesus's word direcing us in our every step.
Dan - I laughed, I cried... That joke meant everything to me.
i'm new here, allow me to introduce myself.
i am a 27 year old married mother of three.
i was also a third generation jw.
Welcome JS.
Did they really ask you if you reached the big O? What does that have to do with the price of silk in Burma?
Maybe they figure bad sex is enough punishment in and of itself and go easier on you.
i've been invited to go to a study group again, by a sister who i work with, she said she would like to explain some doctrines to me that i might had misunderstood, and would like to get together and talk.
she also gave me 5 magazines--told me, of the great articles, that i should read.
yep!!
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying you need to drop to your knees and kiss their hands. Just a little respect for their opinions. They very likely do not want to Destroy your life - though that may be what you think would happen if they got their way.
From personal experience I know that I have gotten farther with a cool, determined attitude. "I know what you know and I have made my choice. Please don't bring it up again." Then when they do bring it up I interrupt them mid-sentence with a loud, firm NO! That seems to work.
Elder Wart Nose: We just want to see you..
Butalbee: NO. This conversation is over.
Elder Wart Nose: How can you...
Butalbee: NO ( a little louder)
Then walk away.
Anyway, though it's fun and theraputic to think of ways to freak out faithful Dubs. But if you actually act, then you never become free of their grip.
just like a lot of you here i got baptized young.
11 years old.
i knew that at the time.
Just like a lot of you here I got baptized young. 11 years old. I did it because everyone else was doing it. I knew that at the time.
Some years later, age 15 or so, I asked my mom if it was possible to be RE-baptized. You know, now I was feeling all this zeal and wanted to make a heartfelt commitment to Jah. She told me that it was possible, that if I did not consider my initial baptism valid then I should talk to the elders and see about doing it again.
I have no WT library and really do not want to bring up JW subjects with my JW family. Do any of you know if that is really possible?
Because I wonder, if that baptism is declared void, then how can I be disfellowshipped? I say this because my brother, who was never baptized, enjoys full family association despite his sinful habits. I am DF but lead a sterile monogamous life and am the family leper.
Just Curious
remember that calculus test i thought i failed and which panicked me into suicidal thoughts.
i made an 89 on it.. will i ever conquer my self defeating anxiety?
time will tell.. i can't erase the past, all i can work on is the future.. one thing i have found out is how many people are going through tough times.
Congratulations! Sometimes I think I wrote the book on self-defeat. Heck, I haven't gotten up the courage to even go to college yet.
I think it's awsome that you are working toward somthing great for yourself.
How long have you been back in school, what is your goal, what is your ultimate dream job?
i've been invited to go to a study group again, by a sister who i work with, she said she would like to explain some doctrines to me that i might had misunderstood, and would like to get together and talk.
she also gave me 5 magazines--told me, of the great articles, that i should read.
yep!!
I think that displaying C of C would be a good idea only if you really dont care what happens to your JW connections. If that is the case then you should really just point blank tell them you think JWs are a cult and want nothing to do with them and dont come back.
I also agree with amccullough. I know when I was a JW I honestly believed that I was saving lives. Ex JWs need to show a little more respect to the rank and file JWs. Most of 'em truly believe or at least dont know better.
Respect is a two way street.
i have been separated from the jws now for 4 years.
the first year, i went into a deep and severe clinical depression.
i think that's what happens when you are 3rd generation jw, born and raised.
Smoldering Wick,
My heart aches for you. I know how very difficult the process of leaving the Org is. I also know what it's like to take the job on while suffering from depression. When I weigh they pain I felt at leaving the Org, which compared to the experiences of others was a smooth process, to what you must feel. Well, I admire you tremendously.
I quit going to meetings in about December 2000. I turned myself into the elders (to save my sister the heartache of having to do it) and was disfellowshipped in May 2001. My family is all very sad that I am DFed, but I still have contact with my parents and two sisters. My brother was never baptised and is atheist. But I lost all my extended family and the friends I had come to feel were like family.
I too play it cool when speaking with JWs. Preferring to let them believe I was seduced by the world's charms rather than disgusted by the Society's deceit. Better to be fallen than apostate. But about a month ago, after being Un-Invited to stay with my sister because she "remembered" that I was DFed, I cracked too. Couldn't make myself be vague anymore. Things are still strained in that quarter.
Please, Please, Please read the posts about making an exit plan and how to go about DAing yourself. Don't just let your emotions make decisions for you on this one.
Please keep posting here and letting us get to know you. Email me anytime.
Your friend in suffering and in Freedom.
Lari
i have to ask this although i have a feeling i dont really want to read the responses but anyway.
i talked to several people here today who dont believe there is a god at all.
this is disturbing!
Flower, I too understand where you are coming from. I was a 3rd gen. JW. When my un-baptized brother told me he was atheist I freaked out. Could not comprehend how that was possible. He was raised knowing what I knew - how could he not believe?
Now, over a year after leaving the Org., I wonder. For now I am fairly convinced that there is no God in the traditional sense. I do not believe there is a personal God. I suppose I would rather believe that there is no personal God than admit that there is - and that he doesn't give a Flying F*** for humanity.
Maybe I'm just a primitive thinker but the ancient Multiple Deity answer makes more sense to me. If I consider that "god" as we know it is just a more developed species and that there is more than one of them - then things make sense. I can completely imagine a bunch of self-absorbed Gods playing around "up-there" and checking in with us only occasionally to stir the pot. One occasionally steps in and saves a child, the other gets bored and starts giving Son of Sam messages.
Ok, maybe that's going a little far. Who knows.
I will admit to becoming something of a Hedonist after realizing there is no god who cares what I do. But that is starting to wind down. Now that I am the one responsible for my future, hmm, maybe I ought to make something of myself.
