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  Are you the one with the answer?

  by ring in

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  first off, i am not a jw anymore,was one for over 20 years.haven't set foot in the kingdom hall for 9 years.

  my question is"why not be truthful about what this site is?

  "this site is set up to look at first appearence as a legitimit witness site.why the "front"?if users here are proud of their x-jw status,or are proud of the fact they have left the wbts organization,why isn't this site named x-jehovah witness.com ?

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  lauralisa

  Any active Jehovah's witness is welcomed here.

  Dialogue is open to any subject, but this is not a place where one can come and find encouragement to spew stale, disproven rhetoric. There are other forums where one can go and get plenty of positive warm fuzzy feedback for spewing that day's current "light" on subjects as promulgated in the Watchtower and Awake magazines.

  If any active JW can support an argument, defend their position, back it up with logic, facts, and reproducible results, they will find at least some people with whom to relate.

  That would actually be interesting! But, the prohibitions against going on-line that currently exist for JW's make it such that most people who are lurking already have questions. This is a good forum for such people.

  After getting to the point where they have to choose between reasoning and "loyalty" to an organization that is leaking faster than they can bail, well, that usually reveals what they are truly seeking......

  just a few thoughts.

  lauralisa

  HI ANDEE!!!!!!!!

  It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)
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  Getting busier all the time

  by Simon in

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  in case anyone is interested in how much this site get's used, here are the 'highlights' from last week:.

  over 2 million hits (this is a request for 'anything' including graphics).

  over 985,000 page views (this includes the 'chat' feature which bumps it up though).

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  Simon,

  You totally rock
  Enclosed please find my check in the amount of $1,000.000.000

  love, lauralisa

  It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)
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  <=== Noob here.. my story...

  by Stash Daytripper in

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  it was asked of me in chat to post my story here.

  i had plans to do so.. but wanted to meet everyone in real chat first.. first off... any info i post about myslef will put me at a great disadvantage on these boards.. so if you could please relpy.. tell me your story as well.

  ok where to start.... i grew up, like most jw's, in a troubled home.

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  Welcome Stash,

  What struck me the most about your story is the number of times you have experienced abandonment.... either outright rejection, or the insidious threat of rejection. You have also had to endure people in authority over you either disregard or simply ignore situations that to you were simply wrong (by their definition, no less, even though you were an eyewitness.

  Sorry if the language offends, but I have always called this dilemma 'mind-fuck'... when two inconsistent realities collide like this and you have to play into their denials or risk consequences that affect your ability to feel "safe" in the world, it screws with your thinking. Conform or be cast out, etc.

  Add to this whole thing the elements of addiction and its whole basket of crap and you have the perfect recipe for PTSD.

  I am among many here who have to contend daily with the effort of reconciling what seems true with what feels right with what is supposed to be right with what is obviously not right but who really knows what is right? huh?

  Some people are just born into a fortunate situation where they are fed healthy things like love, consistency, security, etc. Others, following their instincts, seek a place where they don't always have to be guessing, panicking, wondering wtf. I don't know about other people specifically, but I find that living in such chronic confusion feels shitty, and I am always seeking relief from it. I tried lots of mood-mind-altering agents and behaviors in my youth, but now really try to do it cognitively. It's hard work.... but it is MUCH LESS DIFFICULT NOW THAT I'M ALMOST A YEAR OUT OF THE MIND-FUCK called WTBS.

  There is a lot of wisdom here as well as compassion and empathy.... also, lots of anger and despair. Also lots of comic relief. Also lots of people whose agendas are weird as hell, but hey, there is room for them. You don't have to read their stuff or respond to it. I find it endlessly fascinating to watch people evolve in their paths. I can't seem to get into the chat room because I have a macintosh, which is of course superior in all ways to a pc, but that is another discussion... wish I could though, so I could develop a more personal connection with some others here. My postings usually go completely unnoticed. But I get much insight into things just studying others' stuff and it has helped me immensely.

  Hope you find some peace... I'm glad you have such a wonderful partner... I have one and it has made all of the difference in the world.

  lauralisa

  ps...... typing doesn't count!!!!

  It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)
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  Jehovah Cancels New System Because of UN Stuff

  by ISP in

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  reuters.... in a surprise development today, jehovah, the god of the christian fundamentalist sect 'jehovah's witnesses' made a statement about the recent controversy regarding the watchtower bible and tract society(wts) and its ngo status.

  the 'wts' has now dissassociated itself from its previous ngo connection but had held such a position for the past 9 years or so.

  'i've had enough' said the diety, 'i just don't know what i am supposed to do with these people.

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  thank you, ISP... perfect foil to a freaky day

  still cracking up, lauralisa

  It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)
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  WHAT`s YOUR FAVORITE BEER!

  by OUTLAW in

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  i like molson canadian,except when i`m out of the country.then i only drink imported beer...molson canadian.

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  I love beer; my longtime fav is Blue Moon belgian White ale. There is a microbrewery in Virginia, USA that makes a bunch of different batches of "Victory ales" which are awesome!

  It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)
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  Raymond Franz Never A Member of GB/Fathers Email

  by ladonna in

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  yep, that's right!!.

  i called my mother tonight to say a friendly hello.

  you guessed it.

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  ugh, ladonna -

  I just got home from work and am so struck by the events you have endured in the past couple of days.... you are probably hanging in there minute by minute at this point.

  It is clear that your parents (cough) are so invested in controlling you and your behavior that they will stop at nothing, no matter how disgusting, deceptive, malicious, evil, and murderous - just so they can claim "loyalty" to something they don't even understand.

  They have pitched you right into the mouth of the god Molech and burned you up... I'm sure they are crying out for "comfort" from the powerful leadership because of their great "sacrifice".... all the time feeling internally smug and vindicated because of their loyal devotion. Their spiritual balance sheet is now WAYYYYY heavy on credit. Perhaps your father will earn his eldership position over this one.

  I have read many things documenting human misery resulting from the head-fucking that the WTS practices, my jaw hanging open in abject horror, but your story is one of the most salient and disturbing.

  Please, find peace, somewhere, somehow. You (nor anyone, for that matter) are not deserving of such atrocities. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU. This is about distorted, twisted pathological behavior in the name of some freakazoid religion.

  You go on, surround yourself with healing and safe friends, and live well..... wish I could do more for you right now.

  love, lauralisa

  It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)
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  11 ??????????

  by borgfree in

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  just received this from a friend.

  submitted without comment.

  borgfree.

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  nytelecom1 KNOWS about the band "Tool", even to the extent that he knows one of its songs?

  That is weirder than eleven.

  lauralisa

  It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)
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  Raymond Franz Never A Member of GB/Fathers Email

  by ladonna in

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  yep, that's right!!.

  i called my mother tonight to say a friendly hello.

  you guessed it.

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  omg ladonna....

  "Won't it be good when what happened in NY happens all over the world and gets rid of all the wicked ones?"

  My skin crawled when I read that one. I'm sorry for the hideous spot you are in. You called your mom for a friendly hello....and you get terrorist spew. Oh.. ick, ick, ick.

  I have had to cut off contact with family members who are so toxic that I get sick when I am in contact with them. It is a deep loss....

  Kent, you are so right on with the Taliban/WTS being in bed together. No one in those groups will be happy until the entire human race is wiped off the face of the earth. Just what the creator had in mind, I'm sure....

  lauralisa

  It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)
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  More Anthrax THREAT- nearby town AGAIN!!!

  by MrMoe in

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  nearby sister town hit again - my local again!!!!!!.

  http://www.news-press.com/news/today/011009anthraxscare.html.

  collier buildings evacuated; closed for day .

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  today officials had to close two metro stations near Washington DC because some freak sprayed an unknown substance into the air. Sorry I don't have more details... but I mention it because it seems as though there are going to be a whole lot of crazy incidences of this type in the days ahead.

  Mr. Moe, it is easy to see at least for me that you post information about these events because you are understandably anxious. I hope you take to heart the soothing and caring responses you receive, and do not get too discouraged by those who expect - even demand - hard facts/news. That's what CNN is for: clinical, verified (um, well, we hope so) factoid spew. This board is of course appropriate for those types of posts, but, also a forum for those who are generous enough to take the time to express their individual feelings and experiences. I love the "window" into another person's world that is provided by this place, and hope you continue to post whatever you want, whenever you want. Dammit.

  lauralisa

  It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)
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  Is the UN 'scandal' the big one ?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
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  looking at the stats, there are well over 14,000 views of the thread about the un.

  the next 'most read' thread is around 9,500 so it is clearly a burning issue.. i wonder if the involvement with the un is the biggest threat to the wts?.

  they are getting badly burnt because of their covering up child abuse and www.silentlambs.org is doing a great job of raising the profile of this but even so, i can see the 'mental defense mechanism' of many jws excusing this as 'individuals imperfection'.. they cannot excuse the gb getting in bed with the un.

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  Simon,

  Just this evening I was wondering about how to get a copy of this thread. I would be grateful if you would provide a scanned copy! Thank you for what you do....

  lauralisa

  It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)