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  Hey, What happens if I go to pass over and drink the wine, and eat the bread?

  by Devil_Fish in

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  when questioned i would probably respond:.

  and get stuck here with you people for eternity?

  who said there is no hell?.

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  Well---okay. So you're a cannibal and not a vampire. LOL It's all cool.

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  Hey, What happens if I go to pass over and drink the wine, and eat the bread?

  by Devil_Fish in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when questioned i would probably respond:.

  and get stuck here with you people for eternity?

  who said there is no hell?.

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  Geeez, if you're going to pass over something pass the bread and drink the wine! All of it. Drain the glass and then ask for the bottle. It will make the memorial bearable.

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  BLOOD ISSUE! - Call Police for Backup...the JWs are mad!

  by RagingBull in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read this article and thought... "only a matter of time before jws start getting hauled off to jail for attempted murder and manslaughter charges.".

  one would think..."why is this person fighting so hard for their child to die???

  maybe they don't want the kid and figure they'll be free from the responsiblility?".

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  NewChapter

  You did make the right decision! I'm so sorry that you had to hear that crap. And from you baby's grandma no less! Do they even understand the impact of telling a mother (or father?) they should have let their little one die. You could have countered by asking them what kind of god would destroy this innocent child forever for a decision her parent made. I don't think it would have broke through the cognitive dissonance, but you'd have had the satisfaction of voicing it.

  And Welcome! Is your story here? Have you introduced yourself? Did the blood issue lead to you leaving the WT?

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  Why do I no longer get attacked and persecuted by the demons, since I left JW,s ?

  by pedal power in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  most jw.s really believe that they ( as we once did ) are promoting gods will, but what if they really are ?

  is it possible that god is supporting them even though they (governing body ) lie, because most jw,s are ignorant of the lies told on their behalf, ?.

  when i was a jw i got attacked by the demons bigtime, but not now, and i can only assume that they (demons ) are happy that i am no longer a jw and are now leaving me alone, cant think of any other reason, has god ever supported a group who were similarly found wanting ?.

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  Oh, and because I'm a writer with a vivid imagination, I learned a weird skill that I have. Maybe this is what is described as lucid dreams in earlier posts--I'm not sure because I've never tried to define it. I let myself slip into a half sleep and direct my brain to enter scenes I'm thinking about. It's kind of cool--never scary--and I can't always do it. It's only when my brain is very active and my body is very tired that I can achieve it. Maybe there is a link to my sleep paralysis---that ability or that brain energy that allows me to do such things. I'm just saying our brains are so much more amazing than any imagined spirit realm.

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  Why do I no longer get attacked and persecuted by the demons, since I left JW,s ?

  by pedal power in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  most jw.s really believe that they ( as we once did ) are promoting gods will, but what if they really are ?

  is it possible that god is supporting them even though they (governing body ) lie, because most jw,s are ignorant of the lies told on their behalf, ?.

  when i was a jw i got attacked by the demons bigtime, but not now, and i can only assume that they (demons ) are happy that i am no longer a jw and are now leaving me alone, cant think of any other reason, has god ever supported a group who were similarly found wanting ?.

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  NewChapter

  I experience something called sleep paralysis. What happens is the brain wakes up during a cycle of sleep that paralyzes the body. I'm not truly awake, although I can see my room, but I can't move. In this state the following has happened to me:

  Little devils danced in front of the television in the dark. They looked like the devil on the devilled ham can---red suits, pitchforks and horns.

  I've floated above my bed and rocked.

  I heard someone enter my apartment and felt my body shift as they sat on my bed.

  I've seen flames on my walls.

  I often sense and hear someone in my room.

  because I'm unable to move, I can't get up to investigate. I didn't know what it was, but I never thought it was demons. i don't know why. Then I saw this special on sleep paralysis and learned that not only do other people experience similar phenomena, they often see the same type of hallucinations. For the religiously inclined, they define it as demons. One woman saw flames on her wall and a demon stand---apparently rising from her floor and the flames, at the bottom of her bed. Very similiar to my flames and devils vision. People that are more inclined to believe in UFO's define it as aliens. It also explains the feeling of alien abduction. Seeing lights (flames), floating sensations, human-like figures and faces, (though never truly human) and the paralysis.

  There is an involved explanation that discusses the impulses in the brain and why people not only hallucinate but see simlar hallucinations to others who go through this--even though they never met. It's quite interesting, but also quite earthly. I'm not smart enough to repeat it here, but when it was explained it made total sense.

  When I am under extreme stress, I often feel detached and almost floaty. When this happened during a "Christendom" funeral I thought it might be demons. The fact that it stopped when I prayed confirmed my suspicions. But the truth is that it happens in many other situations that didn't make me think of demons. And it is resolved with many positive thinking exercises---which I believed was served by prayer in that particular instance.

  I think the important thing is not to stop looking for the answer and conclude demons. The brain is amazing, and sometimes the real answer is more interesting than the demon theory. I don't believe in demon encounters. However I don't believe that everyone experiencing them is ill or stressed. I believe they are experiencing something terrifying and unknown, but with further investigation the fear would be taken away. Culture has a strong impact on how these happenings are defined--and that is something to think about. Why does one person say demons and another say space aliens? Yet the experiences are somewhat similar? The fact is both experiences are valid and it's all in the interpretation. I prefer science in these instances.

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  What was your volunteer job(s) at DCs?

  by mummatron in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  seeing as it's that time of year i've been reminiscing.

  i used to volunteer as i really struggled to sit still all day, even with all the note-taking and sitting next to the deaf loop system and watching the bsl interpreter to try and learn a bit of bsl.. i have.... counted and voided food tokenspacked fruit bags at a sandwich stallcleaned the stadium at opening and closingcleaned and attended ladies toiletsmanned (or should that be womanned?!

  lol) contribution boxeswhat did you do?.

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  NewChapter

  WOW, you had to peek at numbers? Did that make you uncomfortable? And so what if someone did dial 911? What could you do about it. LOL They really are control freaks.

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  My First DC 'Mentally Out'

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as the title indicates, the 2011 summer convention was my first one 'mentally out', and wow!

  how can anyone stand this stuff?

  demons, demons everywhere: yes, evidently after jesus kicked satan and his big hornets nest full of demons down to earth in 1914, they're all mean and nasty and just around every corner!

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  When I was mentally in, the conventions were torture. Once I was mentally out, I couldn't bear to even entertain the idea of attending. The convention center is 5 minutes away from me, I could easily pop in for an hour or two, but NAH.

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  What was your volunteer job(s) at DCs?

  by mummatron in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  seeing as it's that time of year i've been reminiscing.

  i used to volunteer as i really struggled to sit still all day, even with all the note-taking and sitting next to the deaf loop system and watching the bsl interpreter to try and learn a bit of bsl.. i have.... counted and voided food tokenspacked fruit bags at a sandwich stallcleaned the stadium at opening and closingcleaned and attended ladies toiletsmanned (or should that be womanned?!

  lol) contribution boxeswhat did you do?.

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  NewChapter

  I never volunteered for extras---I just cleaned the section we were assigned. I freaking hated it. I would be tired, dressed in a skirt and heals, there was nowhere to safely place my purse so I had to hang on to it while I swept. Then I had to deal with the kids that used the brooms like race cars speeding past me on the stairs (remember heels) or crushing me against seats in the aisles. But we were expected to do it with a smile on our faces, not mentioning throbbing feet, and voicing our gratitude for the privilege. Did I mention I f*cking hated it? I did anything to get out of it.

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  Question

  by silver rhino in

  1. jw
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  if any witness were able to just walk away from the organization with no repercussions, in five years what percentage of witnesses would have walked away?.

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  NewChapter

  WOW, that's hard to quanitfy. For most it's a gradual process. They hang on for reasons other than repercussions. It's when they really realize they never want to go back that repercussions become an issue---so they start fading or decide to openly take the consequences. Once they reach that point, I think they'd walk away very quickly if they didn't have to worry about shunning. But the actual deprogramming process takes a while.

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  For exJW Singles - Would You Consider Dating/Marrying Another ExJW?

  by Broken Promises in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  do you consider being an exjw a hindrance to dating?

  for example, do you find it difficult to bring up in conversation, lest you get stared at as if you have 2 heads or something?

  or you might find it difficult to explain why you've had little sexual experience in the past?.

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  NewChapter

  I've dated both JW's and never beens. I never dated an ex-JW. They all had their problems. Never being a JW does not mean they will show a normal life---but then it could also mean that. I think I will just judge people individually. Everyone has some kind of baggage. However, I will never date a religious person again.

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