Posts by NewChapter

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Depression and Reinstatement efforts

by AuntBee in

long story, but i was talking online with someone who has been dfed for a long time, encouraging her to join a support group.

-- the person has been trying to get reinstated for years.

described how she has felt unwelcome and unsupported and is depressed.

NewChapter

I knew someone who had never been in trouble before and got DF'd. She jumped through hoops for SIX years---first time offense. Every single meeting. These humble servants of Jehovah really like their power. I wonder if she did something to piss off an elder or a popular brother.

I feel bad that she's depressed. I know what it's like to still be captive to the concept and yet not part of the congregation. Every day is fear and worry. It's nearly impossible to deal with, but if she still believes. . . then this is very sad for her. I hope you can help open her eyes--but I know we usually open our eyes with no help at at..

NC

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When did baptism turn into a wet T shirt contest?

by highdose in

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friends

at what point did they require people to don a white t shirt?

because lets face it as everyone knows... white t shirts become see-through when wet..... so if they are going for the argument that it protects modesty then thats rubbish, why not insist on a black t shirt that would really do the job?.

instead people get baptised and as soon as they come up from the water whatever they were wearing underneath is there for all to see.. .

NewChapter

Is that a requirement now? I wore a tshirt---but I really didn't relish the idea of 2 thousand people looking at me in my bathing suit--at least when they were all still dressed, LOL. It's not like the beach. But I wasn't required to. Has that changed?

NC

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Are JW,s scared of Muslims ?

by pedal power in

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are there any circumstances when the watchtower takes on moslems head on, or like western govts, do they retreat as cowards?.

i placed some literature with a captain in the egyption navy, from alexandria, the jw,s were invisible, if they were even there !!

!.

NewChapter

Do you remember if the brochure portrayed Ishmael being offered by Abraham instead of Isaac? If not the brochure, it may have been in a tract. Pleeeeze don't make me dig up the literature, LOL, I avoid it.

NC

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Are JW,s scared of Muslims ?

by pedal power in

jw
friends

are there any circumstances when the watchtower takes on moslems head on, or like western govts, do they retreat as cowards?.

i placed some literature with a captain in the egyption navy, from alexandria, the jw,s were invisible, if they were even there !!

!.

NewChapter

Bigmouth, I remember that brochure. For some reason I thought they may have portrayed Ishmael being offered up instead of Isaac---which I believe is at the root of the Israli/Arab conflict---in it's basic form. Arabs probably descended from Ishmael and Jew from Isaac, so they argue that it was Ishmael not Isaac who was promised the land. Something like that. Anyway, I don't know why I remember it this way. Does anyone else remember this---or am I making things up again? LOL my memory is a funny thing sometimes, and this doesn't sound completely accurate, but there was SOMETHING like that.

NC

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When and how did the GB start cracking down on the dubs social life?

by highdose in

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friends

i can remember when i was first assimilated, the jw's did alot together, they went to the park together, they had picnics, days out together.. .

somehow by the 90's this had stopped.

did i miss somthing?

NewChapter

Wow, that kind of control would have driven me out much sooner. As I said earlier, I think we missed that memo. We often rented party rooms, had theme parties, talent shows, rented lodges together, camped in large groups etc. Since the KH doesn't believe in social functions attached to the hall, these were all arranged by people privately. If someone had said the guest list would have to be approved, many would have left.

NC

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They're everywhere!

by Chariklo in

i've had visits and encounters from 6...oops, no, 7 individual...no, wrong, it was 9...9!

chance encounters with individual jw's today!

well, 7 were chance encounters, 2 actually came to visit me on purpose.

NewChapter

WOW--must be angelic direction.

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When and how did the GB start cracking down on the dubs social life?

by highdose in

jw
friends

i can remember when i was first assimilated, the jw's did alot together, they went to the park together, they had picnics, days out together.. .

somehow by the 90's this had stopped.

did i miss somthing?

NewChapter

Long Hair Girl: Oh please don't get me started on the many tiimes I was slammed financially or otherwise! I was mostly single as a dub with a great job and lots of extra money. It seems the brothers felt that gave them the right to "volunteer" me to spend money helping others---and OH THE RIDES! It seems since I had no family, I couldn't turn down the constant pressure to give rides. And I loved the people, I really did, but I would be tired after work---have to leave a half hour earlier to provide a ride---go to a public housing area that specialized in people with physical and mental disabilities---and I ALWAYS got the mentals---and have to deal with that surreal ride.

I remember an elder telling a sister, without much money and kids to take care of, about the merchandise that Stoops sells. Of course she was interested--what dub isn't--and I opened my mouth and said yeah I ordered stuff from them. Well the elder encouraged this sister to think about what she wanted. She thought of a list and he turned to me and said you can take care of that. So I ended up ordering her stuff, paying for it, and never getting reimbursed. She didn't offer, I didn't ask. This elder knew she wasn't in a position to pay, so I know he knew what he was doing. Look, it didn't break me, I just didn't like being taken advantage of.

NC

Edited: sorry that was a bit off topic.

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Im trully beside myself..

by Searchn4answrs in

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friends

really do appreciate the excellent info shared on the site...this network of such a dubious bunch, has provided much needed therapy .... .

anyhow,i would like to share my dilemma.... i recently went to court.i petitioned for sole and legal custody and more child support.. i was granted more support,however custody wasnt even reviewed..i prepared extremely well for this hearing.

actually that was my priority.

NewChapter

I can't answer that for sure, but I think not. At least not in my area. Also, where I live in the US, it is extremely difficult to have visitation taken away from a parent. You may disagree with his religious beliefs, but he has a right to practice it. Now the sexual offender friend is interesting, you need to keep any contact well document. Still, if you can't prove the children are in danger, he will get to see them. Even if you do prove they are in danger, he will get to see them under supervision until he convinces the court he is no longer a danger. Then it's back to normal.

I know it's frustrating--we want the best for our kids. But a born-again christian might think it's unhealthy for the children to be with their catholic parent and viseversa. Also, just not showing up for visits is a frustration many parents deal with, but again, they end up just having to deal with it.

I may have missed some details, and I'm not a lawyer, but I've found myself needing to research these things for several reasons. However it may all be unique to the area I live in. Different court systems have different standards. My ex tried to bring up religion when going for custody. The judge cut him short and said that was not a consideration he would take up in his decision.

It's a really big deal to cut a parent's rights. Only the most extreme circumstances accomplishes it. You wouldn't want your children to experience the extreme circumstances. In one case of proven abuse,a parent I know was only able to limit visitation to supervised visitation. When the ex fullfilled all of the required classes and therapy, visitation was reinstitued.

NC

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A very long time elder post this on his facebook page, he is not one of my fb friends

by Iamallcool in

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NewChapter

WOW, unless that family is JW"s, this elder could be mixing with Babylon. Maybe someone should alert those in charge---to protect him.

NC

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A very long time elder post this on his facebook page, he is not one of my fb friends

by Iamallcool in

bringing simplicity back to network marketing...$25 to get started...no selling, no pv, bv, or cv, no left leg and right leg plans, no 2-ups or cycling!!

!...learn how to turn $25 into $5000 residual income & more!!!

huge call 2nite @ 8:55pm est.

NewChapter

I was always surprised at how many JW's got involved in network marketing. I hate network marketing, I hated the meetings that I was snared into, I refused to attend the parties, I hated the false enthusiasm new marketers displayed, I hated that a sister who NEVER invited me to her house suddenly ran into me and was SO GLAD to see me (I had been inactive) and handed me a card and warmly said CALL ME--she was selling knives and suddenly I was invited to her home.

The JW culture is ripe for this kind of marketing. People that are trying to always balance work with outrageous spiritual demands, plus the whole WT set up mimicks networks marketing---which is more about drafting others than selling products. I've seen the charts, you only really make money if you recruit others---which doesn't happen anyway. Same as the ministry.

I wouldn't be surprised if the elder actually posted this, and there shouldn't be a problem with it. He's not doing it at the KH, and it doesn't look like it breaks their moral code. I have a problem with the WT, but I don't want to pick apart every detail of every JW's life.

NC