Don't play kingdom melodies in any type of genre other than BORING. It was wrong for a band to put the music to a rock-n-roll beat! They hate young people.
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there was no end to the amount of stupid rules put in place.
one that always bugged me was "no shirts with slogans when doing kh yard work or at jw gatherings.
id always get talked to about it when i'd wear shirts with a band on it or whatnot.
Don't play kingdom melodies in any type of genre other than BORING. It was wrong for a band to put the music to a rock-n-roll beat! They hate young people.
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i love people like jackie mason, larry david, chris rock and others that make you think about the absurdities in life.. who do you enjoy?.
Viola, I got to see Tim Minchin live a few weeks ago in Chicago.
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when i was a bible fundamentalist jehovah's witness it was easy for me to dismiss homosexuality as a sin and move onto the next, more interesting, topic.
it is much more complicated than that for me at this point in my life.. i think about it this way:.
what if i, a heterosexual, were raised in a community where everybody was homosexual and heterosexuality had a harsh taboo attached to it.
Perhaps culturally Nick. Many members don't consider themselves christians and probably wouldn't like that, but I don't have an overwhelming need to define myself, so whatever. I like the people. We don't have prayers at the services. A couple months ago she opened her sermon by saying she'd like to honor the atheists, doubters and opiniated. It doesn't feel very christian at all, however I'm sure some members think of themselves as christian. Most I have met do not. But the churches vary and so do the members.
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i love people like jackie mason, larry david, chris rock and others that make you think about the absurdities in life.. who do you enjoy?.
Tim Minchin.
when i was a bible fundamentalist jehovah's witness it was easy for me to dismiss homosexuality as a sin and move onto the next, more interesting, topic.
it is much more complicated than that for me at this point in my life.. i think about it this way:.
what if i, a heterosexual, were raised in a community where everybody was homosexual and heterosexuality had a harsh taboo attached to it.
Good question OUTSMART. When I left the org, I really missed the community. I generally consider myself an Atheist. However the Unitarian Universalist church accepts everyone with open arms. They don't even blink when I say I'm an atheist. They are united by principals and not specific beliefs. They are interested in social justice and helping each other be the best they can be. They are humanists and it's a very comfortable place for me.
They have a lot of secular programs too. I attend Women's History once a month and they have said I can start a completely secular writing group if I'd like. It's a weird concept but it really works for me. I like having a family that will never judge or disfellowship me. I can't list their principals off the top of my head, but you can look them up. They are good principals! They don't concern themselves with who has sex with who and when. They don't freak if some practice can be traced to paganism since many of the members are pagan. The first Sunday of every month, ALL donations are given to a local charity. It's a good place to be.
We recently had parents have a little ceremony for their new baby. The pastor encouraged the parents to help the child ask questions, express doubts, and find THEIR OWN WAY! None of that raising them up in the mental regulating. . . blah blah blah. And instead of somehow dedicating the child to some organization, she dedicated the congregation to supporting and loving the child and supporting their journey! It's like everything is the absolute opposite.
They value education, art, music, writing---everything that makes humans wonderful. Occasionally a bible verse or two are read, but also essays by people that have something important to say. The pastor also came from a fundie background, so she really understands me and is TRAINED to be helpful.
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when i was a bible fundamentalist jehovah's witness it was easy for me to dismiss homosexuality as a sin and move onto the next, more interesting, topic.
it is much more complicated than that for me at this point in my life.. i think about it this way:.
what if i, a heterosexual, were raised in a community where everybody was homosexual and heterosexuality had a harsh taboo attached to it.
How many young men in particular have been driven to suicide because of the unloving and hate-filled environment inside the organization?
This is interesting too. I recently looked up gay rights in Muslim countries and was pretty surprised at what I found. Not all of the countries outlaw homosexuality. Most do. Of those that do, they often have stiffer penalties against men than they do women. Some countries that outlaw it for men don't outlaw it all for women! CRAZY.
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when i was a bible fundamentalist jehovah's witness it was easy for me to dismiss homosexuality as a sin and move onto the next, more interesting, topic.
it is much more complicated than that for me at this point in my life.. i think about it this way:.
what if i, a heterosexual, were raised in a community where everybody was homosexual and heterosexuality had a harsh taboo attached to it.
I agree Nick, BUT there are gay people that still respect the bible. So from their point-of-view, how do they reconcile things. At the very least, it's an academic question.
when i was a bible fundamentalist jehovah's witness it was easy for me to dismiss homosexuality as a sin and move onto the next, more interesting, topic.
it is much more complicated than that for me at this point in my life.. i think about it this way:.
what if i, a heterosexual, were raised in a community where everybody was homosexual and heterosexuality had a harsh taboo attached to it.
But for those of you that may be gay or lesbian and still believe that the bible is God's word (I haven't given up on that quite yet....but hey...only time will tell), what are your thoughts about the condemnation of "men who lie with men"?
This is an excellent question OUTSMART. I don't think anyone will misunderstand your intention. I'd like to know too! I don't accept the bible or it's moral code, but for those that do, can you reconcile accepting homosexuality with belief in the scriptures, and if so , how? This too is an honest question. My pastor accepts the bible as an important book, but not a literal book---full of flaws. Others may not view it that way though.
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when i was a bible fundamentalist jehovah's witness it was easy for me to dismiss homosexuality as a sin and move onto the next, more interesting, topic.
it is much more complicated than that for me at this point in my life.. i think about it this way:.
what if i, a heterosexual, were raised in a community where everybody was homosexual and heterosexuality had a harsh taboo attached to it.
I remember watching something that discussed shows like Bewitched and I Dream of Jeanie and how they had a huge homosexual following. They didn't understand at first, but realized it was because they identified with having to hide true identity from the world. I found that fascinating, and was even more pleased when they said they responded by making it even friendlier, especially Bewitched, with characters like Uncle Arthur. This was the 60's and everything had to be done in a sneaky way. But they did it anyway, and that says a lot about them.
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when i was a bible fundamentalist jehovah's witness it was easy for me to dismiss homosexuality as a sin and move onto the next, more interesting, topic.
it is much more complicated than that for me at this point in my life.. i think about it this way:.
what if i, a heterosexual, were raised in a community where everybody was homosexual and heterosexuality had a harsh taboo attached to it.
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Does that mean if a Gay person was a witness....'ordained minister' that they could go visit their partner....or just get one of those ordained minister things from oniline....sounds like a good stop gap until DOMA is repealed.
Deist---there are no gay JW's, you know that! But seriously I don't know the answer. It's an intriguing thought though. We should look into it! Maw haww hawwwww.
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