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  Victims of Pedophilia=Holy Grail on JW.com

  by LDH in

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  well, since i've been rather "inactive" and haven't started any new threads in a coupla months at least, i want to get your thoughts on this subject.. i've been reading a fair deal (since i'm a fast reader, i've always been able to keep up with most of the posts.

  ) but lately (past month) i really haven't been feeling drawn to jw.com.

  i have nothing but admiration for simon, ang, bill and shiela but i do have some questions worth raising.

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  Jesika,
  I'm glad too it ended on a good note for us. Thank you. I look forward to getting to know you.

  Simon,
  Although I'm on my way to bed now, I'll just make a couple of brief comments. I will try to catch up tomorrow although it's a holiday for us and I've plans.
  My position is that when a hot-button issue such as pedophilia is on the tip of everyone's tongue....the pressure is on you to moderate those issues with a heavier hand.

  As you know from emails I've privately written you, I'm not campaigning for Fred's return. I am aware that you get many emails, and am not pressuring you to respond. I know you'll respond when you're able.

  Simon I'm not saying either way Fred or NYT should have/should have not been deactivated. You and Dubla are the only ones I've shared a certain theory with, and if you re-read my emails you'll see why.

  This post was NOT about Fred or Jesika, they just (unfortunately for Jesika)represent the topic.
  It is the responsiblity of the community of posters at large not to put more pressure on you to moderate certain hot-button topics.

  As for this topic being "discussed to death," I already mentioned I went on vacation a day or two after it happened. I'm just now giving it some thought after reading certain posts. Those posts did not state my opinion, so I made my own. I wasn't aware that just because something had "previously been discussed" it was considered case closed.

  Little Witch made bitchy, attackingremarks to me. (followed by Valis') I don't feel that saying, "I've never posted before" and then saying, "Well yes I did, are you satisfied?" is a "minor inconsistency."
  I'm NOT LABELING LW a troll. Yet, this is some of the exact behavior we've seen from trolls in the past. I don't like it, it isn't honest or fair.

  Trying to give the impression that you are "impartial" because you are a "newbie" then admitting.....well, you've been around for months. C'mon, now! It may have been unintentional, but minor it wasn't.

  Lisa
  Always been Lisa Class

  Whoops, I just hit my limit of 30. I hope this goes through...

  Edited to finish my thought and fix my formatting....

  Edited by - LDH1 on 2 September 2002 3:26:5
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  Jehovah's Undeserved Kindness

  by Amazing in

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  the watchtower society, in its prime teaching publication the watchtower magazine, loves to discuss jehovah's "undeserved kindness.

  " comparing their bible, the new world translation , with the king james version, we see an interesting difference at romans 11:6:

  nwt: "now if it is by undeserved kindness, it is no longer due to works; otherwise, the undeserved kindness no longer proves to be undeserved kindness.

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  Of course, Paul being a murderer of the followers of Jesus, and still being allowed to live,may certainly mean that *he* received undeserved kindness from the LORD.

  That doesn't mean the rest of us are in the boat with Paul, though.

  Think: a parent has five children, and all five children do things you expect children will do. Misbehave on occasion, don't do their school studies on time, read past "lights out" time.

  One of those children does something to the family that is worthy of receiving the ultimate family punishment. The parents react in a merciful manner, with kindness and understanding of that child's weakness. Surely, that child has a right to talk about the "undeserved kindness" he or she received.

  But, when that same kid goes on blathering to others about the "undeserved kindness" that *all* of the children receive, he/she may be stretching it a bit, don't you think? Trying to lump the other children in with him/herself may be just a bit much.

  "Jehovah" is the one who, according to the WBTS has the power to stop the suffering that his children are put through on a daily basis. And yet, he doesn't. Where is this "Kindness" I'm hearing so much of?

  Lisa
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  A classic case of WT dishonesty.

  by caspian in

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  the following piece of misleading wt thinking was emailed to me recently by a close friend see what you think.

  the following words are plaguerised from another person, but i did feel they should be posted.

  ""under the title "is it wrong to pronounce gods name?

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  Yadork, either I woke up a genius this morning or your arguments are even stupider and easier to refute than usual. (hint: I didn't wake up as a genius, LOL)

  Ya dum-dum says:

  The TRUTH is that the WTBTS does not claim that the word "Jehovah" is a perfect representation of the divine name.

  So let me get this right.

  Jehovah, the *TRUE* God, who is represented by the one *TRUE* religion on earth, through the "Faithful and Discreet Slave Class" has such a *HARD TIME* communicating with them, that they don't even know the PERFECT REPRESENTATION of their own God's name?

  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  They spend millions of dollars telling people how important God's name is, but, dammit, they're not even sure what that name is! LOL! ROFLMAO!

  Now if they don't even know how to pronounce their own God's name, what else, I ask you, may be amiss?

  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  Lisa
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  A classic case of WT dishonesty.

  by caspian in

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  the following piece of misleading wt thinking was emailed to me recently by a close friend see what you think.

  the following words are plaguerised from another person, but i did feel they should be posted.

  ""under the title "is it wrong to pronounce gods name?

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  Yadirf says: 

  I feel that you're consumed with a 

  faultfinding spirit

  Lurkers take note. Yadork doesn't have a valid response to Caspian, 

  so he resorts to the Ad Hominem attack.

  What is an Ad Hominem attack?

  According to 
  		http://www.dictionary.com

  Appealing
  			 to personal considerations rather than to logic or reason

  Debaters should avoid ad hominem arguments that question their opponents' motives.

  So there you have it. Yadork attacks the person rather than the logic. CLASSIC WTBS training!

  Lisa

  Edited by - LDH1 on 14 August 2002 16:16:35
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  We're off to Florida!

  by ISP in

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  yep we leave tommorrow!

  it would be nice to meet some of you mean apostate type folk that deserve everlasting death etc.

  btw i got this mailed to me.

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  ISP and fam:

  Did you enjoy your visit to that pinnacle of American Society, Disneyland?

  Why not go to Euro Disney, or even better, Afghanistan?

  Lisa
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  TODAY WAS AN AWE INSPIRING ONE

  by QUEENIE in

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  well i went over test results so far and got more to do--as to going into detail well i just as soon not but i did leave outof there with a brand new walkwe - 4 wheels - a seat - a basket and candy apple red !!!

  top of the line in walkers..what else can i say...lisa was in awe when i came back with it...that is it 4 now folks..have a safe and sane 4th all !!!

  queenie

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  Hey Queenie, does it look like this one?

  This company has online shopping.

  Lisa
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  Norwegians Harm Whales

  by Magog in

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  norway to defy ban, resume whale exports to iceland.

  by inger sethov .

  oslo (reuters) - norway said friday it would defy an international ban on commercial whaling and resume exports of whale meat to iceland after a 14-year break.

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  I noticed you did not address my real life scenario of "waiting to see" Jan.

  Lisa
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  Norwegians Harm Whales

  by Magog in

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  norway to defy ban, resume whale exports to iceland.

  by inger sethov .

  oslo (reuters) - norway said friday it would defy an international ban on commercial whaling and resume exports of whale meat to iceland after a 14-year break.

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  Otherwise, why not simply agree with the other Americans 
  			
  on that thread who took exception to the real-world 
  			
  consequences of American politics? 
  			
   

  Because I have the brains to realize that anytime military or

  armed forces is deployed, life is endangered and there is a high 

  probability that people will die.

  Because I'm not a hypocrite. Because the same Americans who took

  "exception" to such action are in all liklihood not walking or riding 

  a bicycle to work today. No, I'm pretty sure they gassed up their cars 

  with refined crude oil and rode on in to work in air-conditioned comfort.

  They just don't like to face the facts about how we get those commodities. 

  Lisa

  Edited by - LDH1 on 2 July 2002 13:1:55
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  Are the MEN apostates more imp. than the WOMEN?

  by LDH in

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  well, here are my thoughts on the subject.

  we sit here and bash the wbts for having gender separation, but what about us apostates?

  do the women apostates carry as much weight as the men, and why do you say so?

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  Women who defend their views passionately in discussion are sometimes told - yes here on this DB - to take their Midol.

  Just saw this, and NO I am not on the rag.

  Lisa
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  Are the MEN apostates more imp. than the WOMEN?

  by LDH in

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  well, here are my thoughts on the subject.

  we sit here and bash the wbts for having gender separation, but what about us apostates?

  do the women apostates carry as much weight as the men, and why do you say so?

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  Kis,

  Once again I thank you for your kind words.

  "An answer, when mild, turns away rage."

  LMAO!