If you really want to - you could get reinstated and go back to "rescue" those who you think you can help. I'm not sure however, that I think it is our place to mess with what another person believes. Some people need to believe in something like this, and it could cause them more harm than good to pull that out from under them.
Posts by bafh
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30I regret my disassociation.
by Zoos inif i knew then what i know now, i might never have disassociated myself.
i realize all i can do is speculate on what could have been.
however, when i consider the number of people i might have been able to help by dropping little thought-provoking seeds, i really regret having jumped to the decision to disassociate so quickly.. ive read the accounts of several people on this forum telling of how stressful it is to be in the position that i just described above.
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Did you think Dinosaurs were destroyed in the Flood?
by LoisLane looking for Superman inin our jw bible, they placed a friendly dinosaur on the inside front cover on the old time map of the middle east.. you look at that, and see where the placement to where the garden of eden is and that was the image i got in my mind.
dinosaurs lived, but were too big to save in the flood, and besides they had outlived their purpose of fertilizing the earth.
i feel stupid for the thinking i had when i was 'in'.. is that how you 'thought' when you were 'in'?.
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I saw an interesting documentary recently that explains the current theory that it was an asteroid. Works for me.
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STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH! Possible shift in position from the WTBTS on the global vs local deluge.
by marmot ina buddy of mine recently sent me a link to the official wtbts facebook page and i thought what the hey, let's see what they have to say about the question that made me fade in the first place.
much to my surprise, they answered!
you may already be aware that the general position of jehovah's witnesses is briefly stated here:.
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bafh
I clicked on the link http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2008411 and what you quoted is not what they wrote.
They are not backing off the Global Flood idea.
And, there is no "Official JW Facebook" page. They are warning people right and left about the dangers, so I can't imagine under what circumstance they would have such a page.
bafh
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No One Knows The Day or The Hour....
by bafh inso why is the wt obsessed with it?
i would much rather read articles on actually applying bible princples and have a real christ-like personality.
why don't they realize that how they fixate on "the end" is in direct conflict with that scripture?.
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So why is the WT obsessed with it? I would much rather read articles on actually applying Bible princples and have a real Christ-like personality.
Why don't they realize that how they fixate on "the end" is in direct conflict with that scripture?
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Is it just me? AAWA.co
by bafh ini'm curious, anyone else find the aawa.co website negative?
heavy handed on the emotional trauma posts, and light on the informational posts?
maybe it is just me but on top of the fact that there isn't much posting going on there, the topics were downers.
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No, I haven't since I just looked at it today. I did tell them they need to speed up the website since the pages take forever to load. But it is not really my place to tell them what to post, I was just wondering if maybe there was something I was missing. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks it is a downer.
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Is it just me? AAWA.co
by bafh ini'm curious, anyone else find the aawa.co website negative?
heavy handed on the emotional trauma posts, and light on the informational posts?
maybe it is just me but on top of the fact that there isn't much posting going on there, the topics were downers.
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AVOIDING A SHEPHERDING CALL: Suggestions pls
by grumblecakes inyup got a voice mail bright and early this morning "grumblecakes, we would like to schedule a shepherding call".. how do i get outta this?.
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thanks!!
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bafh
Here is what worked for me: "I appreciate your concern, but no thank you." or " Thank you so much for your call. Things are really busy for me right now, and i have a lot going on. I'll let you know." Click.
I would not say anything about what you think, or say anything like "I refuse" because that just raises a red flag even more than flat out declining.
They didn't bother me again. Now, I was a single woman, with no previous "status" i.e. regular pioneer, auxillary, a husband they wanted to use.... so it worked for me because they don't really care about people like me in the first place.
Let us know how it goes.
bafh
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Portland, OR
by bafh inplease pm me if you live in or near portland or.
i'd like to have some discreet contact with people in the area.
bafh.
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bafh
Please PM me if you live in or near Portland OR. I'd like to have some discreet contact with people in the area.
BAFH
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Fading & Feeling Lost ... Part 2
by What Now? insorry to keep dragging this on ... but this is really the only place to vent right?
so basically it's going on 4 months now that we've had zero meeting attendance, and for the last 2 months we have not reported any service time (prior to that, when our service group overseer would send a text asking for our time, we would report 4 hours each, for our "family study").
in my last post, i talked about how we were having a really difficult time beginning a new life outside the organization.
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bafh
I faded and it took me about 3 years to feel like I'm making new friends outside. It is hard. I was trying to not be a witness, but not be worldly. Didn't work. Join Meetup, parent groups, volunteer....it takes time. One of the social "issues" of the JWs is that you have instant relationships - and they develop fast and deep - artifically. So when you are out and about with "regular" people - it can be hard to understand why everyone isn't instantly a "friend". Well, to tell you the truth, it is healthier for friendships to develop slowly and naturally rather than in an artificial setting like the JWs.
Don't give up. Find yourself, and others will find you.
BAFH
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How Do You Know If You Are "Marked"?
by Thoughtless inyeah, this has been a question that has been on my mind for a while, but how do one know if he has been "marked" by the congregation?
do they announce it?
i have expressed doubt last year about the org, but i still have responsibilities within the kh.
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The best way to keep from being marked is to not share your personal life with anyone. If they have no information - they will make stuff up to fill in the blanks - but it won't be anything they have evidence of - it will be more along the lines of you being materialistic or too private or whatever. The more friendly you can be at the meetings without revealing personal information the more confused they will become and eventually, they may leave you alone all together. If you are always "busy" eventually they will stop trying to socialize with you.
Just my 2 cents.
bafh