yup! Cognitive therapy. Worked wonders--no prescrips here!
DarioKehl
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Did any of you need counselling or psychotherapy as a JW?
by TimothyT ini have just started my new course to be a qualified counsellor.
naturaly i am studying this because of my own background and now i want to help others who have had similar strains on their lives.. i know the pressure that the jw organisation puts on its members, so i was wondering, if you dont mind saying so of course, did any of you attend counselling sessions due to the pressures and problems that the jw life brought along?.
i can imagine that the majority of my old congregation (myself, my dad and my brother included) would need some form of counselling or medication in order to remain sane.
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Out Here on My Own
by mamamo intonight glee had a sing off using the song out here on my own.
"sometimes i wonder ... who i am, do i fit in.
out here on my own.. always proving who we are.".
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DarioKehl
"fix you" by coldplay always makes me cry. and i'm a dude.
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I've lurked a long time: JW's produce some of the most paranoid humans
by Unlearn ini'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.
it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.
more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.
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DarioKehl
welcome unlearn! I took the same leap and joined about a year ago. It's a tough step. Keep shedding layers. You'll find support on here.
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Life is so short...how do I get my famiy out? If not, how can I stop worrying about them?
by sprintcmp ini was born in, baptized at 12 or 13. auxiliary pioneered one of those aprils when there was the big promo.
i took the act's in high school because every body else was doing it and glory be...i was granted a scholarship and my parents allowed me to go to college.
around the same time, two things happened: 1) an instructor said during a lecture: "question everything, even the things your parents taught you.
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DarioKehl
ok WHY DOES THE EFFING HIGHLIGHT TOOL NEVER WORK FOR ME??? OR PHOTO POSTING? JEEZ! I've used Chrome and Safari--NO LUCK.
Everyone ELSE gets it! I'm gonna go sit in the back of the auditorium and POUT.
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Life is so short...how do I get my famiy out? If not, how can I stop worrying about them?
by sprintcmp ini was born in, baptized at 12 or 13. auxiliary pioneered one of those aprils when there was the big promo.
i took the act's in high school because every body else was doing it and glory be...i was granted a scholarship and my parents allowed me to go to college.
around the same time, two things happened: 1) an instructor said during a lecture: "question everything, even the things your parents taught you.
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DarioKehl
Ten years go by and the fade begins...by the way I had moved away from my small home town for employment, and spent every Sunday avoiding phone calls from my mother because she aways asked if I went to the meeting that day. Made an effort to pretend I was active when I went home for visits, even made up fictitious names when childhood friends and family asked "Who are some of the brothers in your congregation?" (What a punk I was!)
I also moved away before beginning my fade (and also voted for the first time last fall and can't wait for th 2012 election!). And every Sunday or meeting night, I still get the phone calls. It kills me to hit "ignore" and check the voicemail later. It kills me to dread calls from old friends or relatives when I used to look forward to them. They know something is up, but I think they're just as afraid to open that door as I am. They don't lecture me (although, my mother is notorious for sending me reactionary emails after a friend of a friend mentioned something I said online or something). But, they'll try to wiggle in questions like "How was meeting today?" or "Did you like that point in the WT study?" and even if I say yes, my mother will still "go over it" with me like she's rehearsed a demonstration for a service meeting part! Little does she know, I study thw WT more throughly than I ever did while I was still active--because I critically analyze it now! In fact, I've busted her several times because I'll know of a WT article that's been out for some time that she hasn't read yet. They also call and I get the sense they're just trying to feel me out--not really calling for any reason, but, just to investigate. Looking for clues in my voice or maybe I'll slip up and contradict myself or something. That's why I screen the calls and return them on my time, on my terms and I control the conversation. The more I talk, the more I may slip up and out myself.
Anyway---back to topic... It kills me physically, emotionally and mentally to have to LIE and HIDE who I am and what I'm doing out of FEAR. It's not so much guilt anymore--guilt died when I learned TTATT. But I'm still a moral person and there is a bit of guilt that bothers me when I lie. While living my "worldly" faded life, I only regret the necessity of lying and decieving my parents and family about my current state. I'd love to be open and honest to them, but we all know what will happen then, don't we?
Additionally, this constant fear of being "caught," the constant physical demand of looking over my shoulders and covering my tracks is KILLING. ME. I can't eat, I can't sleep, I can't plan, I can't enjoy, I can't learn--everything came to a halt because I'm at the the end of the plank with 2 choices: do I jump (back in to the bOrg) and drown or do I let the pirates (WBTS and their shunning policy) spear me in the back? A choice has to be made--and I know which one it is "right" for me. As Steve Jobs said, "Your time is limited, so don't waste it living SOMEONE ELSE'S LIFE."
What did you end up doing, sprintcmp? Did you DA, get DFed or are you still faded? Does your remaining husk of a mom and foggy sister know you're faded or do they assume you're still active?
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Martha My Dear...
by MoneurMallard ini wonder what it was like to be around when noah's ark landed.
to be there when shem said to his son, "go pork your sister" (in order to repopulate the species)..... i'm paraphrasing of course, i'm not really sure if shem's son's sister was named martha or not.. the degree of incest alone is enough to turn away any logical rational person from the bible.
of course it had to have begun long before noah's time, even when adam and eve were conceiving, there must have been lots of sexual perversions taking place.... this is of course all lunacy, as the human race began with several distinct chromosomes and species emanating from several different gene pools at different intervals.
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DarioKehl
You need AT LEAST 47 different couples for a species to have enough genetic diversity to continue. Below that number, no species has ever avoided extinction. How anyone can follow an organization that stubbornly insists the flood account is a literal account that happened exactly as described in the scriptures--globally--is beyond me. That proved to me the GB/WBTS is a horrible, horrible control group and I began my silent path down Apostacy Blvd.
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JWs Summed Up in One Sentence! Contribute Please!
by DarioKehl in"we can't smoke pot with him... he's disfellowshipped!".
please keep 'em coming!
i wanna see more.
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DarioKehl
"I'm cool with sex, drugs and parties but I don't f*ck with demonized sh*t!"
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Question, Mormon temples.
by jam inthe mormon temples will build five temples in cities.
worlwide.
the church, with it,s 14.1 million members.
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DarioKehl
RE: Irreligiosophy podcast...
I am astonished at how similar LDS and JWs are. Especially since we adopted "Family Bible Study" nights and LDS has always had "Family Home Evening." They use terms like "wordly," "heavy petting," "disfellowshipping" and "one true religion."
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Question, Mormon temples.
by jam inthe mormon temples will build five temples in cities.
worlwide.
the church, with it,s 14.1 million members.
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DarioKehl
You cannot enter a mormon temple unless you've had your "endowment" and that ceremony is usually a Mormon's first exposure to it. You get your patriarchal blessing, do the cleansing and vail ceremony where you learn your "spiritual name" and a special handshake. A lotta masonic-like ritual. It is a goal for all super-mormons to have a "temple wedding." That's like, an ultimate badge of honor. Any non-mormon relatives or mormons who have not received endowments yet are not allowed inside for the temple wedding ceremony.
Temples are regional, like circuit assemblies for JWs. Their local congregations are in buildings called Wards. I believe they have zones instead of circuits, bishops instead of "annointed" or "GB" and "general conference" instead of conventions. If you'd like more info on Mormons, there's an excellent atheist podcast put up by 2 ex mormons from Utah called "Irreligiosophy." If you enjoy sophomoric humor and profanity, it's a great show! But they're also very well researched and I've learnd a TON about LDS! (and yes, they have 2 shows, episodes 41 and 44 about JWs).
Check it out!
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JWs Summed Up in One Sentence! Contribute Please!
by DarioKehl in"we can't smoke pot with him... he's disfellowshipped!".
please keep 'em coming!
i wanna see more.
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DarioKehl
I'll go first:
"We can't smoke pot with him... he's disfellowshipped!"
PLEASE KEEP 'EM COMING! I wanna see more. Be creative and witty. ONLY RULE: ONE SENTENCE!