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  Demonstrations From the Platform

  by DarioKehl in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  good evening, all.... still relatively new here so if i'm posting about a topic that's already been run into the ground, i apologize.

  but i just wanted to acknowledge the typical "demo" we all see at meetings, assemblies and conventions.

  even back when i was a good-goody teen dub, my brother, friends and i would jokingly refer to demos as "5-minute illustrations on how to say 'no.'".

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  BTW: there was a very overt "anti-iPad" soliloquy at this year's corn-vention.
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  Oh no, someone's dissed us to the FBI !!

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  dear sir,.

  a complaint has been registered against you with the federal authorities in the usa.. the complaints center on slander and character assassination emanating from members posting on your jehovah's witnesses network forum, and online stalking.

  all details have now gone to the fbi on federal plaza in new york for their immediate attention.. ([email protected]).

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  We're not the ones protecting pedos and sending hemopheliac minors to their deaths. Nor are we teaching that the FBI and its government are the "wild beast" who will be destroyed in the near future.
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  Undercover Brother Campaign- have you received your invite?

  by stuckinamovement in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  without specifics being mentioned as to what it is......(to avoid tipping off certain lurkers).. how many people know about the upcoming summer long campaign?

  please use this thread to confirm receipt of your campaign invitation.

  take care.

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  PM please?
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  Signs From My Brother

  by DarioKehl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  signs: (really amped up in the last year).

  claims to "spend hours on the internet.".

  recently became an ms after 3 yrs of reproof.. after a few months, stepped down and relocated.. expresses no interest in becoming ms again, calling me saying "count me in for paintball again.".

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  Paintball is on the agenda real soon! In fact, most of the JWs who play with us could be potential escapees because they're already doing something they're "not supposed" to do. Each time we play, more and more of out worldly friends and relatives come along (with beer) and the JW players seem to be totally fine with it!

  BTW, while at convention, my bro and I also had a nice hour-long chat about his flood doubts while soaking in the hot tub. I just sat there quietly and let him vent a little and then very subtly said, "Yeah...I find it interesting that even though the society insists it was global and not regional, the Egyptian and Chinese dynasties were totally unperturbed by the water. Maybe pagodas and pyramids float?" And he started laughing.
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  After the victory in France, JW's take the streets in celebration.

  by NomadSoul in

  1. social
  2. humour

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nunm7rzhs_o.

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  OMG.

  There will be local fall-out in the B-room over this video. WT will go after the dancers, the filmer and the poster.
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  Signs From My Brother

  by DarioKehl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  signs: (really amped up in the last year).

  claims to "spend hours on the internet.".

  recently became an ms after 3 yrs of reproof.. after a few months, stepped down and relocated.. expresses no interest in becoming ms again, calling me saying "count me in for paintball again.".

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  Thanks Lore!

  I appreciate 3rd-party perspective. Perhaps my true motives in opening up to him are selfish. I am a loner by nature. Very introverted. But part of me doesn't want the burden of being the only JW in my family to "leave." I guess what appeals to me is the possibility that I may not have the entire load of dissapointing my family on my shoulders. Everytime he made a snide remark about JWs in front of our families during convention weekend, I felt tremendous relief, almost hoping that maybe HE would be the one to sever the ties and I could ride along on his coat tails.

  On the other hand, I'm single, in my 30's and isolated and even I get depressed and have that constant feeling that I need to "look over my shoulder" so no one finds out about my feelings and choices. IF he is doubting too, he may have tremendous depression and internal conflict because he's got a wife and family tethered to him. Ugh... if he is a doubter, he's totally STUCK.

  There are a lot of people in this situation...mentally checked out, but don't wanna pull that band-aid off the arm hair.
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  Drama DC 2011

  by inbetween in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  prelude:.

  still being in, i had to attend the 3 day dc this year.

  well, actually, it was not soooo bad.

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  Yes, Gayle

  Even in 2008-2009, the convention I attended in the midwest had ~6,000 but the baptisms were 50-60 people. I've seen other posters on here and all seem to be reporting abyssmal numbers for 2010-2011! I believe YouTube especially is having a profound effect!
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  What do you think of the pictures (both illustrations and photos) in WT literature?

  by Chemical Emotions in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i used to really like the drawings as a kid.

  the artists, i think, are usually pretty good, not so much at portraying emotions but in technical ways.

  the photos always seemed silly to me.. so what do all of you think?.

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  Open up the inside covers of the newer TMS book.

  Open up the Daniel and Isaiah books.

  Browse any new WT or Awake! magazine and look at the paintings.

  Hidden penises and very awkward (sexually suggestive) poses, positioning between people and the way staffs, spears and scrolls are grasped in their hands. My buddies and I started noticing this about 10 years ago and they're all painted in the same style. I think this one particular artist is putting these through as a joke. For real... check them out, it's undeniable once you look at them!
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  Signs From My Brother

  by DarioKehl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  signs: (really amped up in the last year).

  claims to "spend hours on the internet.".

  recently became an ms after 3 yrs of reproof.. after a few months, stepped down and relocated.. expresses no interest in becoming ms again, calling me saying "count me in for paintball again.".

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  SIGNS: (really amped up in the last year)

  Claims to "spend hours on the internet."

  Recently became an MS after 3 yrs of reproof.

  After a few months, stepped down and relocated.

  Expresses no interest in becoming MS again, calling me saying "Count me in for paintball again."

  Shared with me that he "disturbed" a long-time JW friend by expressing doubts about the flood account.

  Relayed his flood doubts to me in confidence.

  Shared funny stories of a "weak brother" at his new hall and some of the hilarious and shocking things this guy says openly.

  While attending convention, made countless witty remarks infront of our mom and his wife criticizing everything from the parking lot traffic directors, the "toes" prophecy (saying that he "doubts it's going to be anything new but we're supposed to make a big deal about it."), hating meetings and service and the "terrible new song book."*

  *Incidentally, when HE says these things, he gets a "tsk-tsk" from wifey and momma. When I say anything remotely close to scandalous, I get sincere, audible gasps followed by teary-eyed lectures from wifey and momma.

  HOWEVER...

  He's always used "shock-and-awe" humor.

  He's married with kids.

  Both sides of our families and his wife are die-hard Dubs.

  Turned down an invitation to go camping with me and some friends in April because he was auxillary pioneering and had to "get the rest of the hours in."

  ADVICE NEEDED:

  Am I reading too much into this?

  Should I take a proactive step and open up to him about my doubts or is there too much risk involved?

  PROS:

  If he's "mentally out" like me, I'd have the closest relationship with him than I've had since we were kids and I wouldn't feel so alone in deceiving our family.

  I'd have flesh-and-blood to talk to about this for ONCE! Friends are good, but it's still a very alienating sensation and I get depressed about it often.

  CONS:

  If he's not "mentally out," I completely risk outing myself!

  If he is, what next? Sure we'd have a team dynamic, but the potential pain we will cause our families and the inevitable strain on his marriage and parenthood could spell disaster!

  Ok, lay it on me!
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  JW nephew graduation party cancelled... your insight is requested

  by Alfred in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a jw nephew in another state who was at very the top of his high school senior class this year.

  because of this, my sister (an elder's wife) had planned and sent out invitations to his "graduation party" which would be held at a community center with all the bells and whistles.

  i actually bought plane tickets for my wife and i to attend this party immediately after receiving the invitation in the mail.

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  Rather than going straight for the Phantom Menace-style anti-JW lecture, I'd utilize the kink that's already in his armor. Ask him about the girl. Ask him if he still has feelings for her. Imagine how horrible this summer is for him, being totally in love (even if it's just a temporary fling) and having it completely stolen. Having a manipulative friend stab him in the back. The hurt, shame, embarrasment and blue balls are intolerable--I remember going through it myself. USE it. Get him to open up about his feelings for the girl, his frustration at the situation and then very carefully say something like, "Isn't it crazy how a volunteer organization can control people's lives SO MUCH?" and then relate a similar personal story. If he's a stellar 'Dub, be careful about attacking doctrine. Instead, emphasize how you're "still very spiritual" but you have some minor conflicts of interest about how people are treated in "matters just like the one you're going through." Establishing common ground is key. Leave it in his hands by offering to be there for support if he ever has to vent frustrations in the future. Say something like, "I know you respect and love your parents and they believe they're doing the right thing out of love, but there may be things you feel you can never share with them. If you've ever got something on your mind, you know I'm OK to talk to and anything you say or express stays in the vault. You're a good kid, hang in there and congratulations on graduating."

  Good luck and keep us posted!