i was told at an early age that if i didn't live by their rules - which included all the meetings and familystudy, before meal prayers and service andall that - i would be free to leave with the clothes on my back.
at 15 i moved out.
has anyone seen this article in the feb 1st 2012 wt?.
it's worth a look.
lots of references to christians, rather than jw's.
i was told at an early age that if i didn't live by their rules - which included all the meetings and familystudy, before meal prayers and service andall that - i would be free to leave with the clothes on my back.
at 15 i moved out.
i have neither friends nor family to turn to.
the result of being born in a cult.
but i need to talk about this.
the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
until you realize it was astro turf the whole time.
at the kind advice of so many of you (and hassan) on this board....i ceased attempting to discuss doctrine/failures with my wife many months ago.
but unfortunately that does not prevent her from grilling me from time to time.
during one of our infamous "discussions" she said she was going to "investigate" this supposed "proof" that is out there regarding 587bc.
i know exactly what you mean.
the control is something you almost have to experiance to believe. how a person will defy all logic to stay controlled.
i strongly believe that religions are satans attempt to twist god and make the humans sin by adhereing to the rules of man.
but some don't get it. and they don't want to get it. which is strange, because the REAL TRUTH is uplifting and answers the big questions. which helps to lead to a fulfilling life in this world.
they are scared to leave the jail cell. they are afraid of the big world without old jehovah on their back. they don't want to. they WANT the jdub paradise to be true. it's so much easyer that way. there is a plan and steps and a goal. books to guide you through anything. real life is difficult to them.
so where does that leave us? are we special for figuring it out? were we special for being brainwashed?
are we mentally superior?
i believe that certain ones are chosen and then tested by everyone else around them. like job.
my parents and siblings are all jdubs still. brother is still mentally in.... i left at 15.
http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/behind-closed-doors-congress-trying-force-indefinite-detention-bill-americans.
this is not some made up, exaggerated joke.
the bill of rights may be effectively canceled in the next few months.. metatron.
George Carlin said it quite well:
"Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice . . . you don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying . . . lobbying, to get what they want . . . Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want . . . they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that . . . that doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fuckin' years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers . . . Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your fuckin' retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it . . . they’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fuckin' place. It’s a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in The big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people . . . white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means . . . continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you . . . they don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t care about you at all . . . at all . . . at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it..."
i see a few want to believe in the watchtower's view of bible prophecy, scriptural understandings and the view that the "anointed remnant" dispense the "spiritual food at the proper time".. how would you refute those views?.
all of mankeli's post have convinced me the jdubs are all satans children. he doesn't need to continue anymore.
the arguements provided clearly show that this is a HIGH CONTROL GROUP that don't want you to think.
and they are straight out of the US of A. like the mormons, and adventists and scientologists and the rest of the cults.
i just found out that one of my coworkers is a witness.. it got me thinking about my past jobs.
in four out of the last five jobs i've held i have worked with witnesses.
it got me pretty paranoid at times because i was a classic "double-lifer".
my boss used to be one, and him not being one made me think. he left after 1975. really got me thinking.
then he hires jdubs frequently. he knows they need money and are usually good workers.
but when i have them on my crew and i am in charge, they attempt to shun me.
they will not continue conversations, one word answers. they are not social with everyone on site. they are scared of the world.
i personally hate having to work with them because all i want to do is get in their brain and undo the brainwashing, but all i do is push them in deeper.
THEY REFUSE TO THINK. IT's EASiER THAT WAY.
i have now watched the footage of lee h. oswald being shot over and over all evening.. i have watched it backwards a frame at a time and forwards a frame at a time and slomo.. how many men are standing left of picture as lho and escorts enter right of picture?.
how many at end of tussle?.
they come out of the door with lho.
all the footage was staged, hollywood style.
they were creating the event for you.
they have the power to write history to their likeing.
welcome to enlightenment.
coc was delivered this evenning and i will be jacking it the whole night.
i might write a review to refute ray's argument after the reading and btw, i will be away from here for some time.
let it begin.. .
Lets see what my guy
I will be jacking it the whole night.
there are many slang terms out there.
why you choose to write this way makes little sense.
then there is your avatar...
do you ever find yourself hiding in the closet?
i hope he reads the book.
im a mormon now and have been one for the last 3 months.
at first i really liked it but now i am starting to have 2nd thoughts, i grew up as a jehovahs witness and was disfellowshiped at 19 i really started to look for a new church in july of this year.
i started out in a christian church which i really liked but i didnt understand the jesus as god thing/trinity.
have you actually read a bible all the way through?
did you read to understand and learn, or just to say you read it?
whay i ask is if you had read the warnings about false prophets in the bible, you would have no problem figuring this one out for yourself.
remember, they will become angels of light to decieve you. question everything and demand a reasonable logical answer.
read and understand what the ancient scrolls have to say.
the god of heaven does not live in man made temples.
RESEARCH is the key to the answers you seek.
i just hope you have the diligence to do the research. most get lazy....and never fix the situation they are in.
this is taken from the wt 2010, 9/1.
are we in danger?.
is it not an exaggeration to say that all of us are in danger of being deceived with regard to our religious beliefs?
Zid and JeffT - you are absolutely correct. because of 1 bolt the whole dash came out. found some old parking stubs from the 90's.
my car is a homemade 2.0l awd turbo. pushing 14 psi, full turbo system approx 300hp. then there is my talon - almost 400whp.
if anyone is interested, i will continue to comment about my cars on this thread. much better subject matter.
who else is into cars?