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  Were you " SPIRITUALLY IMPOVERISHED"?

  by refiners fire in

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  or did you have the truth in your hearts?

  brothers and sisters.

  field service/ meeting attendance/ personal study/ and personal prayer.. how were your key indicators?

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  Meeting attendence- I had no choice here, attended them all! Brainwashing was very successfull and all proper levels of guilt and fear were firmly implanted from childhood.

  Personal Study- You have to be kidding, it was my personal study that has helped me finally heal from the crap they layed on me there! Personal study to them is really personal programming with thier garbage literature, written for a 3rd grader!

  Field Service- My absolute downfall, with inactive parents who were looked down on as bad examples, I loathed going in service with all those righteous elders who really had no incentive to help me whatsoever. A most painful expierence to walk up to a house and try to place literature with an actual person who usually seemed to have a stronger faith in God then me. I finally pioneered for a month or so and that was when I realized it was morally wrong, because my faith in my God was so low compaired to the people I was trying to save.

  Personal Prayer- Another crock of shit for me growing up as a JW. I usually never got past the asking forgivenes of sins part, as I couldn't really ask to be forgiven for masterbating, I just plain liked it too much to be sorry for it. All the past, failed promises I had made to God to quit the evil act! It was only after being out of the Org for many years and having tried many other paths to God that I could even attempt such a thing again as "personal prayer!" I don't even like to call it that, I would prefer meditation, or inner guidance, or even communing with God or contacting the Light. The expierence at least now has some measure of meaning to me, but not when I was a JW. I never got any answers to prayers then, and actually, if I had it would have probably been considered demonism...LOL! as all supernatural works, like Jesus performed, were considered evil. The Jw's wouldn't recognise an answered prayer if it happened to one of them, they think it would have to do with thier silly preaching work, rather then a persons sacred path in his own life.
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  Rejection

  by dsgal in

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  i faithfully attended all the meetings at the local kingdom hall...someone was studying with me...i went out in field service.but i never got invited to any of their social events.this hurt me so bad i stopped going to meetings.just curious,anyone else ever experience shunning?

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  libra_spirit

  You must have stumbled on a "bad congregation" that hasn't been cleaned up yet...............they are supposed to be giving you the "Love Bombing" treatment right now........LOL Unless there is something obviously wrong with you, so that you are not worthy of joining, do you have nose rings or anything strange like full body tattos? Anything that would make you stand out as different if converted into a Watchtower Drone. They will only want to assimilate you if your appearance can be made to fit thier specifications...LOL

  I'm just pulling your chain, LOL I suggest you stay away from them, because they do all seem to move with a single mind on this sort of thing. If you get on the "congregation black list" for association then forget it. You are a bad guy to them, not worthy of spending the time on. Someone to be feared or ignored, and you now have an insiders view of what that is like.

  It could also be that a lot of them are ashamed right now because of the pedophile scandles. They may be having trouble mustering the strength to do thier "Love Bombing" work on the "new ones".

  They aren't supposed to treat you this way until after you are baptized, and they can no longer count thier time with you as Witnessing, which they get a reward for.

  Edited by - libra_spirit on 2 August 2002 16:1:31

  Edited by - libra_spirit on 2 August 2002 16:5:4
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  And I thought I didnt have any.........

  by SpiceItUp in

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  as the general rule i don't scare easily and i am always looking into the unknown corners.

  i like the creepy and spooky.

  spiders and snakes dont freak me out either.

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  Is there one for the fear of not getting enough sex?
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  Watchtower Disrupts Space Time Continuum

  by professor in

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  watchtower disrupts space time continuum .

  as discovered by messenger on this thread, .

  the watchtower has disassociated itself from the watchtower!.

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  I hope you don't really think a "minor temporal annomily" like this can bring down the Borg! LOL!

  Why they already have drones working on a patch in the time space continuim, I'm sure.
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  * t g i f *

  by zev in

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  so, whats up for your friday nite, my fellow 'postates?.

  whatchya doing to chill/relax/unwind?.

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  libra_spirit

  zev,

  That is a very impressive little Aposto Com Center! My mouth is waterin', Is that RIG an HP Pentium 4? LOL and where's the Antenna anyway?

  Hope you have a good weekend!

  There is a street fair in town here, I'll probably toodle through it if the weather is sunny.
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  Apostate terminology

  by Mum in

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  my daughter and i, fun-loving apostates that we are, have some terms we use regarding the wt organization and other cults.

  i would like my fellow posters here to tell us their terms, buzz words, etc., to add to our list: to get the ball rolling, two of our favorites are:.

  cookie-cutter theology.

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  Lets not forget

  Apostofest- a gathering of apostate EX'JW's

  Along the Startrek theme,

  A Dub Drone or DD(DeeDee)- a mindless follower knocking on doors, presenting an emotionless presentation, believes that resistance is futile!

  Assimilation- getting sucked in then programmed into the JW collective where your identity is sacraficed for the greater vision of the whole group, and your body is taken over and reprogrammed for field service and mindless watchtower question answering. Your hand is programmed to raise during Watchtower studies. All your thought processes are taken over and controlled from the central Borg hive, using the notion that now you are a "True Christian". You can be easily led now to do almost anything simply by stating what any "True Christian should do". All Drones are linked together with this key phrase into one single mindset and one unity consciousness and one set of actions, giving them a sense that they are much more then just one small and weak self. They become very large and strong within thier own mind, just as the Borg in Startrek do.

  The Borg- The Organization, after assimilation you will exist to "service" them, ie you will "go in service" and assimilate others (the similarity is stunning)

  The Borg Hive, B Hive- a name for Bethel or the Org central dissemenation of information center, which brings order to kaos.

  Hive Drones- Bethelites

  Apostates- The good guys who survived and got out, like seven of nine, they still have a working knowledge of the Borgs inner process's so are far more capable of "resistance" which is "not futile" as the Dub Drones believe. Termed the "Evil Slave" they become the JW's most dangerous enemy, because they know the truth about the Borg, and who is really controlling it.

  The Federation- containing a slightly kaotic quality, all the good Spiritual Organizations outside the Borg [Org] who accept one another in peace and do not attack or destroy each others beliefs, but must constantly be on guard against attack from the Borg who considers them insignifigant and kaotic and seeks to steal thier people and resources to feed it's self
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  Help me please!

  by Ardilla in

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  please help me, i need your advice.. when i worked, i met a married guy who liked me.

  he flirted me many times and what i did wrong was to follow his game, but i didn't allow anything between us, although i like him very much.

  i quited to my job two months ago, because other reasons but i can't forget him.

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  Wow, what a bunch of good old prudish family advice everyone is giving you! I'm afraid I have to agree, I was involved in a workplace romance once, we both agreed to keep it "not serious". However she ended up divorced, and I ended up hurting for her till she finally left town. No good will likely come from this. To get involved with someone who is not available requires a lot of maturity and age, and most people just aren't that strong or opened. If you want a relationship where each day you draw love and strength from your partner, then you should look for someone who can at least be there with you. A man with a wife, no matter what he says, will not be there most of the time, so most of the time you will spend alone in a state of "longing for him" as you are now. Since he has to work, he will be there, but on the weekend he will be home with his wife, and you will be alone or with someone else. Don't mess with married men, you will get hurt. That is my advice to you.
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  Human behavioral reason behind present WTS crisis?

  by Derrick in

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  halfway through the article scientists unsure what triggers stranding -- illness, perilous coast may be factors (link: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2002/07/31/mn185450.dtl) the thought occurred to me, what if there are complex human behavioral reasons beyond anyone's control behind the jehovah's witnesses organization's rapid moral disintegration?

  the above quoted article reads in part:.

  "the mass stranding of pilot whales on cape cod was probably a natural event, marine biologists said tuesday, an accident linked to tight social groupings and the perils of navigating a rugged coastline.

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  I think that a submarine hit them with it's sonar, they all went basically deaf, and are beaching themselves because they can no longer navigate in the ocean. The navy probably knows the reason for this but has hidden it from the public for years.

  It is not some loyalty they are acting out, they are ready to die because they can no longer hear thier own sonar.
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  Do wicked spirits prove a creator exists?

  by haujobbz in

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  i was in town today and spoke to a woman i knew and to my surprise she told me she was a satanist member,i then discussed things dealing with god,spirit forces,occult etc.this then made me think if theres no god where do these active forces come from,is there really a realm of spirit creatures called demons,she then told me that these forces are very powerful and can harm those who interfere with there operations,also she said they have a vast amount of knowledge at their disposal and can give her information which couldnt be known otherwise.

  but does this prove theres a creator ?

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  The burden of proof, lies only in the seeker of truth. And the spirit world lies mostly outside the physical world. There is no need to prove it in the physical world to anyone who is not seeking it. Moving your awareness into the dream realms and then through to the Astral plane will only prove it to you, no one else. If I told you, you are a being of Light that exists in another dimension, operating this human body that you helped create, set into motion, and are now expierencing through an attached cord, I could never prove it. I could tell you, it is possible to move your awareness outside the physical body, towards and then into this Light being that you truly are, for a time. Or I could say it is possible to bring your Light from the inner realms, the inner dimensions, into this one as Jesus did.

  You shouldn't believe me, until you accomplish the expierence yourself, at that point, you will know the truth of it, but no one else will believe you. The physical mind cannot hold this truth that lies beyond it's death. So why all the fret over who is right and who isn't, it doesn't really mater. The absolutes are simply, we will all die, we will all either pass back across to the astral, like we do most every night, where we already exist now and then move into the Light, or we will all cease to exist. The only possible motive to want to argue about it is to gain control over others, in the emotional realm, and in the mental realm. Professing you know something, that they do not know, that can help or save them in some way in the afterlife. This is absurd if you really think about it. Do you really think that your "astral body" is any less capable then anyone elses', do you really think anybody here in the physical realm can teach you anything usefull about that body. LOL.... I think it so hysterically funny, the notion that I should cringe before anyone claiming such knowledge here in the physical.
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  Should I go??????

  by SpiceItUp in

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  ok---a bit of background first.

  there is this older lady that has been in my parents congregation ever since we moved to fl (14 yrs ago).

  she was the sweetest, funniest, quirkiest woman ever.

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  Have you thought about preparing a few words to say about her, and then ask her family if you can speak at the funeral? Did you love her enough to speak to others about it? This would tell me what the family wants. Do they wish to hear kind words from you? Otherwise, you will have to sit through a plastic funeral designed to convert unsuspecting morners, as usual.