Posts by Lieu

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Be ready to obey!!

by kairos in

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http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20131115/seven-shepherds-eight-dukes/.

from paragraph 17-. at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.. i think i know what the instructions will be.it's nothing new.

Lieu

Become slaves of men!!! We bring you other sheep a new gospel and don't question your overlords about it. We have long gone past the teachings of Christ; that softy. We know what's going to happen in the immediate future. We have warned about it before.

Obey us! We now sit on a throne at the left hand of God as his Word. Christ invisibly rules. Obey us!!!!

We have your ticket to salvation ... it only costs some of your $$$$ and all of your time. We sit as kings and priests over you NOW. Pay tribute to your overlords. Obey us!!!

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songs you couldnt do without on your ipod/mp3player/cell

by deservingone26 in

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i know there's a lot of threads out there like this but i am currently trying to build my music library so far i have a pretty good list of songs that i can listen all the way thru but i only have like 60 songs.

so i want to see other peoples songs that they could listen to over and over without getting tired of them.

i want to see if there are any songs that other people really like that i might want to add on to my list.

Lieu

I have 1600 from iTunes store alone. Love them all.

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No historical evidence for bronze age men living to 500yrs old?

by purrpurr in

the bible tells us that noah etc lived to 500yrs old as did many other characters who lived apparently to incredible years.. yet archaeological research tells us from looking at skeletons that have been dug up that the average lifespan was very short.

if a man got to the age of 50 they would have considered that quite an achievement.

when i was in i always wondered about this?

Lieu

Well, everyone knows where Abraham is buried, they could run some tests.

I wouldn't base too much on bronze age Europeans, maybe Romans, simply because their cities, eating habits, and sanitary conditions were filthy.

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Alone

by Deleteandrestart in

since i woke up one year ago , i've been doing a somewhat controlled fade , the experience i've had has been a very solitary one , i don't mean by not seeing anyone i know because i know hundreds in several congregations and i was an elder .

but just coming to terms with the fact that this was no longer the solution to life's problems, that i'd wasted so much time, that as i sat in the kh and heard everyone comment, my heart was no longer in it , i no longer fitted in ..... i felt that they were in the congregation all under the spell or some form of hypnosis from the wtbts,.

it was like for the first time in my experience at the kh , that i was the only one to see what was actually going on , the indoctrination, the guilt tripping, i could see it all as clear as day , and yet i had as it where a metal gag over my mouth, i couldn't speak to anyone about it for fear of them turning me into the spiritual police.

Lieu

We have to realize something, all these people 'in charge' are only there to teach you about God's Kingdom. Let us know about its blessings. They aren't there for anything else. They aren't there to police anyone, have authority over anyone, or make rules.

They aren't rulers of anyone or anything. They aren't prophets and they can't perform one single miracle, they can't pardon sin nor grant life.

Don't be afraid of them.

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Can you image sitting there hearing this (Spanish)

by fulano in

gerrit losch giving a talk in so-called spanish in the dominican republic.

first begging for donations ...and than this.

brothers and sisters travelling hours and hours to hear this reading, he obviously doesnt speak spanish, just knows how to read it.

Lieu

Hey! Bury???? You kill it, YOU bury it.

No burying needed .... that's what the birds are for. Sheesh! Doesn't guy ever read WTBTS own gloom and doom?

No one had to bury those five destroyed Cities' peeps. Also, if it's fire and sulfur, there isn't going to be anything but piles of ash.

Ugh! People so called teaching their own delusions claiming it's from the Bible.

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All lies are untruth. But not all untruths are lies.

by aintenoughwiskey in

if you speak an untruth that you believe to be true, is it a lie?

does it become a lie when you discover and then fail to admit, or obscure the untruth?

i would like to be a fly on the wall when the gb makes new doctrine.

Lieu

Could it be .... Satan?

How do we know if the GB's truths are just lies disguised by a transformed "Angel of Light" as 'new light'?

How do we know if new light' isn't just old wrong light on a dimmer switch?

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Would you have done what Adam did?

by thinker11 in

every religious group know the story of adam & eve.

for me, i understood what they did was wrong but i never felt they were bad people and considering that they never murdered anyone and seemed to live normal lives after being kicked out, i found it hard to accept that they deserved to die forever and that we would be responsible for suffering for their mistakes.

i personally feel like i might have done the same thing adam did when eve offered him the fruit.

Lieu

For all we know, Eve was only there 1 week before "the incident". She had to be relatively new off the rib if she didn't think a talking snake was odd.

But no. We're I Adam, I would have told her to put the fruit back and if any creatures speak to you stomp them.

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The New World , Utopian or Dystopian?

by BluesBrother in

like many others on here i was raised and spent many years of my life looking forward to , and basing my life around the anticipated "new world" .this utopian paradise would "satisfy the desire of every living thing".

we would enjoy eternal youth in perfect health,have abundant good food ,comfortable homes ,even welcome our parents and forebears back from the dead - what's not to like?i found this description of a dystopian world on the net :"characteristics of a dystopian society• propaganda is used to control the citizens of society.• information, independent thought, and freedom are restricted.• a figurehead or concept is worshipped by the citizens of the society.• citizens are perceived to be under constant surveillance.• citizens have a fear of the outside world.• citizens live in a dehumanized state.• the natural world is banished and distrusted.• citizens conform to uniform expectations.

individuality and dissent are bad.• the society is an illusion of a perfect utopian world."hmm.

Lieu

WT depictions of paradise look like Austrian resort towns. Quite pretty mind you but not my cup of tea. I prefer the rain forest. 😆

Also, what's with the clothes? When Adam and Eve were in a state of perfection, they were naked. Only sinners notice nakedness and put on clothes.

I don't pay much relevance to the depictions since the only thing the Bible says is people will be happy, animals won't kill, and Christ will reign. Don't even know if there will be cheeseburgers.

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Mid Week Meeting. The book of Job....what does this teach me about Jehovah

by tor1500 in

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is it me or are you having a hard time commenting on what does this week's bible reading teach me about jehovah & what points from this week's bible study reading can i use in the field ministry ?

i'm having a hard time commenting because what does job show about jehovah....well, # 1 he allowed job's suffering, but he didn't let satan take his life.

# 2 what scripture could one use in the field ministry regarding the book of job...talking to a householder, see if you don't behave, god's gonna get you....or allow satan to get you.