biopure ceo and clinical investigator to present hemopure(r) overview at jp morgan h&q healthcare conference.
cambridge, mass., jan 7, 2002 /prnewswire via comtex/ -- biopure corporation (nasdaq: bpur) today announced that company chairman and ceo carl w. rausch and a leading south african surgeon, dr. lewis j. levien, will present today at 10:30 a.m. pst at the jp morgan h&q 20th annual healthcare conference at the westin st. francis hotel in san francisco.
the presentation will include a brief overview of clinical trial data supporting regulatory approval of the company's oxygen therapeutic hemopure(r) [hemoglobin glutamer - 250 (bovine)] by south africa's medicine's control council in april 200l.. a live web cast of the presentation will be available online via the investor relations area of biopure's website at http://www.biopure.com and via the jp morgan website at http://www.jpmhq.com .
Scully,
"JWs in the congregations where I was a member would extrapolate on the comparison between forced blood transfusion and rape in order to rationalize that accepting blood products of any kind being the same as fornication."
Yeah, I remember hearing the same crap when I was going too.
Lindy
hi all,.
here in the u.s. eastern seaboard, many of us are enjoying (if that's the word) our first snow of this winter.
don't you just know that even the most fanatical jw just loves getting that phone call: meeting cancelled for snow!
Oh how I loved those phone calls and hated when they didn't come when they should have. Enjoy!!
Lindy
well, it's sunday morning and i'm sitting here posting on this board when i hear 2 car doors slam.
i peek out the window and see 2 elders walking up to the door.
since i'm still in my jammies, i told my husband to go get the door while i snuck into the bedroom.
Damn, I was going regular to all the meetings except for the book study and I couldn't get a copy until I nagged them to death for two friggin' years! They just up and stopped giving it to me one month with no explanation, except that I was not at the book study when they hand them out. One sister would copy hers and staple it together for me so I had one at the service meetings. That didn't even shame them.
Damn! You rate somehow!
Maybe they are using it as excuse to be nosy?
As Always,
Lindy
i'm so upset the more i read and find out about the society.
its all hard to take for me but i'm accepting it more and more.
the problem i have is that i want so bad to tell my mom what i have found out.
Hmmm, a real tuffy not knowing more about your mom personally. But I was brought "in" when my mom started studying when I was 8 so I can relate. I am now 53. I had no religious training before my mom became a JW, although my mom was a practicing Catholic before I was born and she had me baptized one. But when she got together with my father she stopped going. So I was pretty much raised in the "Truth" too.
I had lots of doubts over the years. You might focus on some of her past doubts to see if she says anything negative at all. I remember too, thinking my son would never make it to first grade in this system and now he is 33. I have three grandkids. The problem with doubts is that the Society has indoctrinated into its members the thinking that if you doubt it is something lacking in you so many that doubt don't talk about it. If they do others railroad them with how this is their fault and they need to study, pray, go out in the field more, etc. No one sits down and really discusses doubts. If you do then you are branded a rebel and marked.
Your mom has known nothing else. Even if she has some big doubts in her mind she lays the blame on herself, like all good JWs do when they doubt. She has even more reason to believe now because of loosing her sight and getting older. The Society offers a "cure all” for world problems, sickness and even death, but only if you stay active, and that is what attracts people to it and keeps them there.
When all the family is in, all your friends are in and some people work within the group and your social life is within it is hard to leave even when you know the facts about the Society. And to top it off, leaving is usually a long time process, the time depending on the individual and their needs and outside contact with the "world."
I would advice you to take it slow. See where she stands on some old doubts. Skillfully maneuver the conversations with a little doubt here and there and see how she feels. Bring up a few less intense things you have felt and see how she feels about them and about you having a few doubts.
Go slowly. As your own emotions are bouncing, imagine her feelings if she starts to really realize that the Society is false. She will have to deal with the facts like I did, that I wasted my whole life believing this crap and the fact that there now is not hope of a "cure all" for our health problems and what ever issues we deal with, and a whole lot more. The fantasyland that a JW lives is very real to them and to come away from that opens all sorts of life things to deal with like no cures for illness just around the corner and dying.
It took me several years to work a lot of stuff out. It was very hard at times. If she is strong emotionally that will help. If not, you need to get her some support. If not, she will block out the new information and revert back to the Societies thinking and indoctrination. It is very hard for the mind to readjust to new thinking when your mind doesn't know how to think. And most JWs don't know how to think since the Society tells them they should not think independently of the Society and Jehovah. And the followers believe that with their whole hearts.
BTW, as a 53 year old, I am now in college going into my second year this month. I have been on the Dean's list for the first year. I didn't think I could ever do it and it took an amount of time to get where I'm at. Your mom can do whatever she needs to also. You are right, she should go to school for the blind. Even as a JW she should. Encourage her to do this. It will build her confidence. It will make her less dependent on everyone including the JWs. It will get her somewhere the JW aren't. I would be good for her in so many ways.
I wish you and your mom the best and I am sure that others here will help you continue on your own journey of discovering who you are too. Keep moving forward, it is worth every minute of the journey ahead.
As Always,
Lindy
yesterday's watchtower study appears to have revealed a little.
bit of new light.. there is a scripture in psalm 91:7,8 that speaks about 1000's falling.
at your side.
Guess they have to do something to account for the "thousands" dropping out of the organization after finding out the facts about the Society, so that it explains to the "sheep" what is going on. More brainwashing. Sad thing is, most listening will just take it as fact and go on without a though, or worse yet, not even think it is a change from the old way of thinking.
You are right tho', it did apply to Armageddon before. Ain't it grand how Jehovah keeps bringing forth the new light to explain things more clearly? Praise Jah you people! Baaaa...Baaa....
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They are just like lemmings.
As Always,
Lindy
i was hanging around my mom's house yesterday, and i just happened to leaf through the january 8th afake!
magazine, about the wtc disaster.. no doubt that perhaps many of the sept. 11 experiences are real, but what i mostly read were these shameless advertisements for the watchtower complex in downtown brooklyn!!
i was appalled!!
Just to play the devil's advocate here, how would you know if any of the people that you saw on the streets we witnesses or not? You don't know how many ran out of the building immedieatley to be on the scene. It is not like they dress like the Amish or Mennonites. You would not recognize them, no more than you would recognize a Catholic or a Baptist on the site.
Your anger seems to be overriding reason. I agree that they surely exaggerated their assistance to make themselves look good. But so have other organizations tied into this disaster. I hear that they didn't let anyone in at first, but later they started helping reaching out to others after calming the JWs in the immediate area. But is this necessarily unreasonable given the circumstances? Some of the JW's themselves were caught in this dreadful happening and were in the buildings that colapsed. This did affect everyone, including the Witnesses. Don't forget that the average joe JW really is so brainwashed that they wouldn't see anything wrong in the way the "Elders" handled things. Even the "Elders" themselves are taught to "excluded" not to "include." Wrong, but factual.
Maybe they didn't open to the public immediately due to enforced security reasons. You may not know all the story. Did all the other buildings open up immediately, did you check that out before accusing one "business?" After all, two buildings just blew up and at the time they didn't know what was what. I am sure most of the sky scrapers have security enforced during a disater to protect the people in their own buildings first. I would think all the businesses in New York have security codes they enforce in case of something like this happening. You need to secure your own building before you reach out to help others. But once it was known, they did open up and stepped in to help.
No hate posts back, just trying to make you see that all is not what it seems, even our dislike for the WTBTS. I know that we all know the facts about the Society religious-wise, but let's not let human nature and security codes and company proceedure get confused with our hatred for the lies that the society spews out religously.
As Always,
Lindy
i read crisis of conscience some time ago and it had a profound effect on me.
i just gave it to my ex-bethelite friend to read (he had already discovered the "truth" about the truth on his own).
he's about halfway through it and is in the anger stage.
Fantastic book! You can't read this book seriously and not be affected. Even if you don't read this book seriously, it would still affect you. Read the follow-up book he wrote, "In Search of Christian Freedom." I haven't read it all the way through yet, but I hear it is even more interesting, to say the least.
As Always,
Lindy
i have a bad problem where i sore all night.
not just on the inhale, but on the exhale as well.
can anyone help me as my partner finds it hard to sleep.. any suggestions????.
You could try a sleep clinic. My husband had/has this problem and he had the surgery. It worked for a while but he gained a bunch of weight and he won't quit smoking. So now he snores more than ever. You can hear him through the walls and the floor it is so loud, so I understand your issues. Take this serious. Look up on the net about sleep disorders. Most snorers have sleep apnea. In the long term it can cause serious damage to your body. You are disturbing your sleep cycle which your body needs in order to regenerate. It can and does in many, led to heart disease.
Do you fall asleep within minutes or even seconds? This is a sign of sleep apnea.
A word to your wife. You can be affected physically also. Because his snoring wakes you up often it has the same affect as sleep apnea does. I now have Fibromyalgia due to my husband's snoring waking me continually each night. I suffer in pain each day because of it. Fibromyalgia is another condition due to having your sleep disrupted long term, which you and your husband both can get from his snoring. No cure, just pain.
You both need to take this serious and seek help from your doctor for a reference to a sleep clinic. They will test you and then suggest different options.
Do some research on-line. Type in sleep apnea or snoring, you'll find lots.
Some people wear a shirt with a tennis ball taped to the back of it so that the person can't roll onto their back. Rolling over on your back increasing the likelihood of snoring. They have the nose stips too that you can buy at the drug store. But for a heavy, serious snorer, these types of things usually don't work.
Hope that this helps.
As Always,
Lindy
last oct.i was shocked to be invited to a "legal" party to be held in feb. i was under the impression i had been "marked" since i was out of the loop close to a decade.. so i checked the box that we'd be attending the big 50 anniversary of my aunt & uncle, i included the un fax & articles from guardian paper.
on the return card i added an asterisk by the checkmark.. "can you verify that there will be no public reading of "softball" articles of "awake" promoting the un at this event?
i'd hate to see my young daughter exposed to the spiritual sight of watchtower's feet 666' in the air.. i received a reply this week.. dear ..... thank you for your response to our anniversary party invitation.
At least you had the option of whether to choose to go or not and was uninvited after you said what you said.
We received a nice invitation that was a print out sent to all for our niece’s graduation party a few years back. Told everything but where the party was and the time. My husband has never been a JW, but attended as a child. I was inactive but that is all. Our invitation had a hand written sentence added by my SIL at the bottom of the invitation that said, "We know that you will be with us in spirit." Now it wasn't that we lived far, just 5 miles away.
We joked about holding a séance for her that day so that we could attend in spirit.
So our invitation was an "uninvitation" in truth, and a hit for a gift, I would guess. Can you believe how "loving" and “Christian” this came across to our family, especially my daughters who were this cousin’s own age and attended meetings with her and went out in service with her. Yep, wanted to run right back to the KH after that incident! [>:(]
This same SIL now a couple years down the road, having received a junk computer from a "brother" as a "gift" to the same said graduate above, continually calls my husband and asks for computer advice and upgrades and the like. He doesn't really mind but I think it is a bit hypocritical of her. He is not welcome to the niece’s party but he is welcome to come to her home and fix a crappy “gift” a cheap “brother” unloaded on her daughter as a “graduation gift”. Hmmm.
Lindy, who is enjoying her freedom from leaving the Society far behind.
i'm still me whether the org is a fraud or not.
its too late now to make myself into a different person.
a person is a result of their environment and the way they were brought up.
Flower,
The changes that leaving the Society that you acquire are up to you. You bring back a lot of what I used to feel like and the other posters have given you some fine words of encouragement. I am 53 years old. My whole life was very similar to yours before and how you feel now. Many of us used to be in your shoes. I always felt that I was never good enough. I felt that I was worthless and life could go on just fine without me and maybe even better without me. Over the years the indoctrination of the Society since I was 8 years old was working fine on me. I pioneered, I answered at all the meetings, had Bible studies, studied for all meetings, taught my children all that I was supposed to and all the rest. But it was never enough. The society and the Elders were never happy. You should do more, study more, pray more etc. I was depressed and my life was a mess. I thought of ending my life often. Over time I still had doubts but according to the Society, those doubts were my fault. How convenient for them; blame the flock and not the leaders. I figured that I would never get into the new system no matter what I did. I sinned so many times. I was “forgiven” and moved on and kept trying harder
But the doubts were piling up higher and higher. Depression was deeper. This went on with me for some 40+ years. Then my Mother died. But before she died, a faithful women of many, many years, was virtually deserted in her greatest hour of need. She was dying from cancer. Although a loyal old lady, she was highly neglected by the congregation. Why? Because the remodeling of the Kingdom Hall coincided with her dying. The elders didn’t have the time to hold her hand and encourage her through her last days on earth. The hours remodeling God's house of worship were much more important. A few came often but they were the pioneers counting easy, warm hours. I had to actually beg the brother whom she wanted for her memorial talk to give it. Those few months of neglecting her were the final straw for me. The pile was already huge but that affront was not to myself but to my Mom a very loyal sister.
I “drifted” for a while, and then we moved (not because of the “Truth”) to a neighboring congregations territory and I have not gone back, with the exception of a couple memorials and meetings at the new Hall.
I started on-line and came across H2O and my life changed dramatically over time the next few years with the loving support of many then on H2O, many who are now here on JWD. After that board became unbearable and everyone left there to come here, I followed and I have been here since. I found out the truth about the “Truth.” But then I figured that there must be another “truth” and I started researching. I found in my own thinking (which is all we have really), so far, that there is no one religion out there worth giving my life over to.
I have progressed away from the Organization now for almost 7 years and life has slowly improved. Am I “happy?” Yes. Much more happy than any other time in my life. As happy as I could be? I hope not. Because now I believe that you can get more and more out of life and be happier and happier. There is always something new to add to that happiness down the road. I did get control of my life and slowly things looked better and finally started to make sense. Do I still have questions? Yes. Will they ever be answered? I don’t know.
I do know that my fears that the Society instilled in me from childhood are almost gone and I don’t think of dying at Armageddon and when there is a fierce thunderstorm in the summer, I don’t think the world is ending. When 9/11 happened, I had no fear that “this was it” like most JWs were fearing.
Our family now celebrates the holidays and birthdays and we are fairly normal now, except for our own personal quirks, which we all have to deal with individually.
You at this time are just coming away. Give it time, lots of it and be patient with yourself. You need to realize that you were indoctrinated and now you have to deprogram yourself. This is a good place to be for that. Everyone will help you and encourage you to move on.
I have now completed my first full year of college with straight A’s this semester and 2 semesters on the Dean’s list. I would never have seen myself here a number of years ago. But here I am. You can do it to. What ever you really want. Set a goal or two and work towards them. It took me three years of signing up for college, then canceling but I did manage it. I could have been done this year. But that is okay. It took what it took. College is one of the best things that could have happened to me. I always wanted to go and couldn't understand why the Society banned it when I was growing up. Now it is somewhat okay, but still carries a stigma for many, in many congregations. I have gained so much self-esteem from going to college and the courses they teach today show a person how to critically think, something a JW is never taught, and with good cause. The Society doesn’t want you to think. Now that you are thinking, and you are believe it or not, you are having difficulty and confusion but that will pass with time if you go on, I promise.
I wish you the best. Move on. Go forward. You really and truly can do it.
Lindy (Auntie Antique)
