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  What "CAUSES" a molested child to hurt? (Warning: Possible Triggers)

  by gumby in

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  when a child is molested, they suffer in many ways through their years as we all know.

  my question is......what tells them it is not right?

  how do they know that they have been abused?

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  lisaBObeesa

  Lady Lee said:
  

  Kids around the age of 6 - 7 begine to be extremely private about their bodies. So someone touching them crosses those boundaries and they are keenly aware of it.

  This is true. I know because someone attempted to molest me just at that age. I was in first grade. I had never been warned about molesters, never taught about sex by that age, and certainly never told any part of my body was 'dirty.' Yet, I somehow knew it was wrong what he was trying to do...and I had to get away (he was trying to trick me with a 'game' and was acting like it was perfectly ok and normal...). I also knew I 'had' to hide this incident, or the molester, someone I loved very much, would get into big trouble. He did not tell me this. So how could I 'know' this?? I don't know. I just 'knew'...even though I didn't even know really what he was trying to do or anything. And this one short experience has affected me my whole life in many little ways (and one or two big ways.) Quite traumatic. I can't imagine if it had been worse...

  Wow. I never told anyone this.

  But I just felt I had to share this because my expierence does not agree with what you are saying, Gumby. ( if I understand you right.)

  -LisaBOBeesa
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  Smokers of the World, Unite and Take Over

  by gitasatsangha in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ahh.. nicotine.

  since leaving the jdubs, i find i enjoy lighting up a pipe in the evening, or sometimes the occasional cigar.

  tried cigarettes but i don't care for them much, myself.

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  lisaBObeesa

  I quit smoking.......at least 4 times!

  I am now 2 years without a cig and sometimes still wish I could have one.

  But I will never, ever smoke again. Because I watched someone die from it. Because I watched my MIL loose a finger and toe to it (!!!!), because it makes my clothes, hair and car stink, because it sets such a bad example for my kids...and because it broke my kids' hearts whenever they saw me light up.

  It was so hard to quit. But thank goodness I have. It is worth all the withdawls in the world to be able to look at my kids in the eye and myself in the mirror.

  To anyone thinking of quitting: You can do it!! Here is a good website for those wanting to quit: http://www.whyquit.com/whyquit/ (not for the faint of heart, or those who wish to continue smoking no matter what.)

  -LisaBObeesa
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  The power struggle in Brooklyn, as exemplified by the March 1st Watchtower

  by cyberguy in

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  2. friends

  i don?t know how many caught this, but the watchtower of march 1st, seems to put a new twist on a familiar watchtower theme of power and control by the gb.

  did you notice the last 3 paragraphs of the last study article?

  to me, they?re pregnant with hidden meaning, that is, regarding the power struggle that has been going on since the creation of a plethora of corporations a few years ago.. .

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  lisaBObeesa

  To me it sounds like they are saying:

  ?The annointed class is almost gone. But that doesn't mean we were wrong or that anything has changed?for now. The few annointed left are still supposed to do their jobs...running God's org. FOR NOW. When they are all gone, there will be new light. So stay tuned, folks.?

  The "ALL Christians fulfill the scriptures' idea is just laying the foundation for the new light that is on the way.
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  TALK BY BROTHER SYDLIK (GB)

  by lisavegas420 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just received this today .....

  lisa.

  - dan sydlik (bethel family) we can literally feel the happiness here.

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  lisaBObeesa

  This is just the kind of crap I actually believed.

  I didn't believe about the '144,000' or that the Borg was 'Gods one true religion', but I believed this rubbish about not caring about my feelings and I learned to feel guilty if I felt sad.

  And perhaps with a few more years of therapy I may undo some of the damage and pain the crap has caused in my life!!
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  Survivor All Stars

  by Stacy Smith in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok i've been too busy to come around here much but it's thursday and tonight is the second edition of survivor all stars.

  i honestly was surprised to see tina voted off first.

  the website poll says richard hatch is the favorite to go next.

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  lisaBObeesa

  <---Viewer of mindless TV show I call intertainment, checking in!!!

  Go Rob C. ! You were robbed last time! (No pun intended!) This is your chance to win it all!

  Please survive for a while Ethan, because I love you!

  Also pulling for Lex, Rudy, and Richard ('cause he is so darn intertaining and makes the show so fun to watch!)

  Love to hate: Jenna. Evil, evil Jenna. most.undeserving winner.ever

  The show is a guilty pleasure...
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  Personality Tests (similar to Myer-Briggs)

  by LittleToe in

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  have you undergone psychometric testing to see what kind of personality you are?

  the following emode test is free, and will help identify your personality type:.

  http://web.tickle.com/tests/classiccareer/.

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  lisaBObeesa

  lisa, your career personality type is ISFJ
  
  That means that based on the standard measure of personality traits, you are a strong team player and believe the needs of the group come before the individual. You generally care about the people around you, which allows you to provide a personal touch at your workplace. That sense of caring allows you to feel personal accomplishment and acceptance from your co-workers who know they can turn to you for help. You are generous with your time and spirit and look to make the present moment better for everyone.
  
  Your emotional strength combined with a pragmatic approach to work makes you a strong asset. You don't like juggling multiple projects at once and would rather get one project off your desk at a time. Because of your internal value system, you don't need false flattery from others. You have a strong work ethic and inspire others by your example. Because of this, you are a strong leader on any team. To you, your work speaks for itself.
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  The Turning Sword in Genesis

  by Ariell in

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  2. friends

  genesis 3: 24 - and so he drove the man out and posted at the east of the garden of eden the cherubs and the flaming blade of a sword that was turning itself continually to guard the way to the tree of life.

  correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't man create the sword?

  what was god doing with a blade in heaven?

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  lisaBObeesa

  Wow, it just struck me how that story sounds like it is straight out of The Lord Of The Rings.
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  I knew I couldnt avoid them forever... Hi there, new here

  by Butterfliez in

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  2. friends

  whew*....i finally registered, and guess what?!

  it wasnt as hard as i thought it would be lol.

  i've been lurking here, quietly and observing the board for about 2 years now.

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  lisaBObeesa

  you make it sound like the JW are some sort of mind controlling oriental sect, which they are not

  Galimo, you are right. They really are a mind controlling American sect.

  Seriously, I do agree with some of what you say.

  We have to think of what could happen to this young person. She could be DF. Her parents could kick her out of the house. Or they could let her stay and shun her in her own home. I have seen it happen. Or her parents and the elders could be understanding. We don't know her congregation, her elders or her parents. She needs to be very careful, that is for sure. And we need to be careful giving her advice that could get her DF, that could set into motion things that could affect her whole life.

  That is why i would suggest to go a non-confrontational way and just quietly wither away afterwards if you want to.

  I agree.

  -LisaBOBeesa
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  I knew I couldnt avoid them forever... Hi there, new here

  by Butterfliez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whew*....i finally registered, and guess what?!

  it wasnt as hard as i thought it would be lol.

  i've been lurking here, quietly and observing the board for about 2 years now.

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  lisaBObeesa

  lisa, why did they spend 3 hours with you, if like Galimo claims that the elders dont want to force anyone into anything? it seems a lot of time wasted if they didnt try to and force you to stay.

  I don't think they were trying to force me to stay. How could they 'force' me? You could say that when they failed to get me to say I believed, they tried to force me out, though (by asking THE question).
  

  I think they were #1 trying to 'save my soul,'

  and if they couldn't do that, then

  #2 get me to say I didn't believe The BOrg is God's one true org. ...so they could give me the 'boot.'

  But I foiled their efforts. I said things like, "I just don't know if I believe in God, because there is so much pain in the world and the bible explanation just does not make sense to me." It took three hours for them to try to convince me the bible was true. I remained 'unsure.'

  Then they asked, as instructed in the 'flock book' I suppose, the $64,000 question: Did I believe it was God's one true org? I said, "I don't know."

  They gave up and left.

  -LisaBObeesa

  (Of course the asked THE question because they had to by some rule or something. It was a nonsense question because I had just spent 3 hours saying I wasn't sure I even believed in God.)
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  I knew I couldnt avoid them forever... Hi there, new here

  by Butterfliez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whew*....i finally registered, and guess what?!

  it wasnt as hard as i thought it would be lol.

  i've been lurking here, quietly and observing the board for about 2 years now.

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  lisaBObeesa

  Hello, buterfliez , and welcome!

  I was raised JW and I went through some of what you are going through, too. By the time I was your age, I was making plans for my escape, also.

  I had ?the meeting? with three elders because my parents were panicking.

  I did not want to get kicked out of the JWs?or ?marked? or anything because I was afraid I would be kicked out of my house. So I played it safe. I answered every question with, ?I don?t know for sure?? or, ?I feel confused about that right now?I?m just not sure,? and a few of: ?I want to be sure I am doing the right thing.?

  The meeting went on for hours and hours?3 hours, I think. But in the end, they shrugged their shoulders and left. I never said I didn?t believe in the org. I never said anything bad about the JWs. I did say I wasn?t sure if the Bible was true?but mostly I just left things vague and I took no stand on anything.

  I tried to stop going to meetings, but my parents said that I had to go to meetings or move out. So I quietly went to meetings until I was 18 years old and out of high school?and then I moved out.

  I really felt I had to move out by that time. I did it?I took care of myself and made a little life. But it was hard, and my sheltered youth did not prepare me for real life very well. But that is all another story!

  My advice: 1) Be careful. 2) Try not to burn bridges. 3) Stay in school until you have a college degree, no matter what.

  Take care!

  -LisaBObeesa