Posts by lisaBObeesa

I understand what you are saying, that it is different for life-long JWs, than for those that leave for good. That Dfing doesn't hurt the life-long JWs.

I might agree, but only for what I call 'fake' JWs...ones who don't really believe in the teachings, so they suffer no guilt or pain thinking that Jehovah doesn' hear their prayers in thier DFed state, and things like that. I guess DFing might not hurt them at all.

But true believers suffer. Even true believers who get DFed time and time again. I have seen it.

And I know several people who have been incarcerated several times. It didn't change them and make them stop breaking the law, so in that way it was inneffective. However, it was a painful, unpleasant experience that they did not want to repeat. They do mind going back to jail, they mind very much. Addictions bring them back, however.

DF also does not change some 'weak' JWs so that they stop 'sinning.'

But 'weak' True Believer JWs still suffer each time they are DFed. Maybe worse than the people like my mom! At least she does not see herself as ~~damned to hell~~ cut off from Jehovah with no hope.

To me this just shows that the whole system ineffective AND cruel.

Regards,

-LisaBobeesa

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Do you know any JW's that were Disfellowshipped or Reprooved over 3 times?

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a girl i work with told me the other day that she is going to the elders and ask them to "reinstate" her for the 4th time.

i told her she must be out of her mind.

why would any jw go through all of that headache?

lisaBObeesa

Now I know alot of people have storys about shunning and custody and whatever, but if you sincerely look at it being DFed carries no weighty consequnces.

How is loosing all your fiends and family 'no weighty consequences'?! My mother is DF and let me tell you, she is paying dearly for it. She will never know her grandchildren. She has lost her daughter. She lost her best friend. She lost so much. It hurts her every day. For nothing. It is a terrible, abusive punishment. I don't think it should be minimized.

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Today, I'm Going To Bring The "Crisis of Conscience "Book To My Mother

by minimus in

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my mother has been expressing to us how she reluctantly is beginning to see that the organization indeed has some problems.

she is starting to "feel" that things aren't right.

this past thursday, they gave a "marking" talk for my daughter who hasn't attended a meeting in years.

lisaBObeesa

They told her Jehovah was disciplining her

Elders=Jehovah

Such hard-hearted, unloving jerks. On the good side, your mom is sure to see this.

Q: What brand of gum do you believe it to be, and what leads you to believe that it was possibly chewed by Mary (since they didn't have DNA tests back then). Your response will help me decide how much to bid. Thanks.	Answered on Nov-16-04
	A: I feel this MUST be the gum chewed by Mary herself for the simple reason that every image of a woman that appears spontaneously (whether it's in a grilled cheese sandwich, a dirty window, or a tree stump) is always the Virgin Mary, even if that image does look more like Bette Davis. Besides, who in their right mind would bid on an image of used gum from Bette Davis?