i think the question speaks for itself?
while there is much we don't believe, there are some things we can't ignore.
anyone agree???
nothing??? not even the values we were taught?? not religious ones more just like moral ones
ok..I think people should be honest, too. That agrees with the JWs. And the JWs TALK a lot about being loving, but they are not loving in their actions. I believe in actually doing things that are loving.
i think the question speaks for itself?
while there is much we don't believe, there are some things we can't ignore.
anyone agree???
When I first left, I still believed some of the stuff.
But then, a few years later, I went down to the public library and researched those things just to be sure.
Turns out they were all wrong! (It only took me one afternoon of research to answer my questions...and that was before the internet.)
About the only thing I agree with the JWs on now is that there is a God. That is it.
once i left i became about as "worldly" as a person could get.
world that once i left i went totally out of control.
when i left, .
((((((AloneinOh)))))))
Thanks for sharing your story. So many here know just what you are talking about. So much pain ...and then anger, comes when you find out the truth about the truth.
The silver lining to this story is that now you can talk to your wife..about everything.
And you have us. We understand. You are not alone!
All ears and hugs,
LisaBObeesa
i know there's no such word as "witnessy" but this can be a fun thread.
JW1: "What ever happened to (insert name of fadded one here)?"
JW2: "I don't know, but I saw him at a restaurant the other day with some people that didn't look like witnesses...some of them were smoking. One of the people at the table had a piercing on her eyebrow! I mean, obviously not good associations!"
JW1: "Oh, that is too bad..."
JW2: "Yeah, untill I see (insert name of fadded one here) at the meetings and out in service, I am going to stay away from him."
(this was first posted on google groups).
...well, sorta.... .
my boyfriend came down to visit and possibly stay with me in el paso.. well, as you can see that didn't happen.. .
I'm not that stupid. Yes, I'm a fool for love, but Joe was not in his right mind and I had to agree with him because I didn't know what he was capable of. When we got to Virginia, that's when I found out Joe was mentally ill before this.laters
I am really sorry if I sounded like I thought you were stupid. I didn't mean that or think that at all. I just read the story and I thought this just happened...like last week or something and it sounded so much like something I have gone though...
I'm very sorry if I offended. Really.
-Lisa
(this was first posted on google groups).
...well, sorta.... .
my boyfriend came down to visit and possibly stay with me in el paso.. well, as you can see that didn't happen.. .
I don't know you, but I read your post and it seems really not too fun what happened to you...It sounds like you did not want to go, but you thought you 'should' or something.
Did you want to go? Where do YOU want to live? Why would this person ask such a huge sacrifice from you? It sounds like now you have no money...are in a very helpless situation...
Could you get back home if you wanted? If you really wanted to go back home, could you tell him so and do it? Could you emotionally do it? If you didn't want to live in this new place, so far away could you tell him? Would he CARE?
Don't life partners TALK to eachother about what they each want, where they want to live, ect, and decide together? Why wouldn't he even ask you if you wanted to move? Isn't that strange?
It sounds like this guy doesn't CARE what you want. Or care about what is important to you. Or care about how your kid is going to eat and have diapers. Or care about how you FEEL.
That must hurt you very, very much. I don't know you, but I know you are a very caring and loving person, just from what you wrote. Your feelings are important. You deserve to be treated better.
Take care of yourself. Maybe he tricked you into getting into that car, but you can go home now. If he does this sort of stuff to you now, and you just stuff your feelings and LET HIM DO IT, he is just going to keep doing it and you will keep being treated like a doormat forever.
Loving someone doesn't mean doing whatever they say.
Love,
LisaBOBeesa
the january 15th wt, "can you control your future" is the prelude to the feb 1st watchtower that contains the 2004 annual service report statistics.. .
in the second study article (pages 15-20), the gb acknowledge the fact that people aren't paying attention to their waffle.. .
there are some surprising statements in the last paragraph, but first, let's highlight some points in this article.... .
Wow.
This article does seem desparate. And these numbers we have been seeing...they look so bad! I figure they must have plumped them up the best they could, and still they are down, down, down.
It is almost too good to believe....... Could it be? Dare I believe it? Is the Tower really starting to crumble?
Here's hoping.....
brobennett, you made this comment in another post:.
breeding pedophiles are more common in other religions since they are kept in circulation and not taken out of the religion.
by the way, brobennett, do you have kids?.
BroBennet:
Don't you find it interesting that there are so many JWs and exJWs with painful storys of being asked to NOT GO TO THE POLICE when they were sexually abused by a pedo in the congregation?
There are so many! It is the same story over and over: "We the elders will take care of it. Do not bring reproach on Jah's name by going to the police..."
You can quote from the WT and Awake and the Bible all you want, but these people are STILL HERE. They are real people with real storys of being told to cover up abuse. Real people with real feelings and real pain. It doesn't take much research to find that this is true.
I was raised a JW and I personally knew of one MS who molested his step daughter and she tried to commit suicide over it. When it all came out, he was not reported to the police, per the directions of the elders.
So quote the publications all you want and believe it all you want. But the JW victims are here. The JW victims are real. Thank God some of them are brave enough to tell their painful stories in order to try to get the Org to change this policy of not reporting.
There are several of them, real actual victims who have lived through the elders telling them not to report, on this thread right now! They are telling you what happend to them! And you are quoting WT at them! They LIVED IT! Please validate their pain and what they have gone through and at least admit what the elders have done to them is wrong!
These people should not be told to shut up about the TRUTH that happened to them because it 'brings reproach on the Jah's name." Covering up and hiding Pedophiles is what brings reproach... on all JWS! Work for change!
the finale is this coming sunday, already.
i am pretty surprised how fast it seems to have gone this time.. anyone have a guess as to who will win?.
i think twyla.............but last week i thought ami had it all wrapped up and she got voted off.
Go Chris!!!!!!!!!
my situation is getting worse, i told my parents im going to move out in 6 months once i turn 18 whether i get to go to college or enlist into the navy.
my over zealous mom says that i can move out tomorrow.
now i have lots of friends at school, ive only hung out with few not that long but ive known em forever, should i burden them with me asking to move in with them?
The fact that your "overzealous mother" said you could move out today suggests to me that she might try anything to throw a wrench in your plans over the next few months.
My parents did this. Once I told them I was going to leave they did what they could to make it not happen. For one thing, they kept finding new things to charge me for so I could never save money . I was also continually grounded for every little thing, not allowed to use the phone, and told constantly that I couldn't make it on my own, and more... God, it sucked.
I agree that it is a good idea to keep the plans on the down-low.
