i'm 19 and trying to get a job.
my dad won't pay for my college if i don't pioneer.. if i get a job, i can't pioneer while in college.. i can supposedly work and study, but i need a good way to get rid of pioneering (it was never my idea in the first place - blame the parents with their social coercion).. if i stop pioneering, i will be told by my parents that i don't love jehovah (not that i care what they say).. how can i do this as painlessly as possible?.
i want to move out someday and have enough money to do this.. by the way, if you read my started topics you will see my situation in more detail and that my dad is the coordinator of the boe..
How about you tell mom and dad you are stopping pioneering, get a job, and put yourself through school...? They wouldn't kick you out for not pioneering, would they?
Being able to stay home for a few years can really, really help you. If you must move out, then do what you have to do. I had to, and I moved out at 18. It was very difficult, but I survived. BUT, If I could have stayed a few years getting some school done and saving some money it sure would have helped. A LOT.
another no-no from the wt.
this was obviously some sort of manuscript talk, i was there and heard it at the st. louis assembly and asked around, and i know it was at other district conventions.
what business is this for the fds to be in, not a scriptual affair at all.
just to keep from messin' up fhn's reggae thread.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbhnicq02l4.
http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2010/10/07/teenager-shot-over-sagging-pants/.
uh huh.. syl.
Greater than 50% of of my students favor hip-hop style of dress.
I have to say that over the years it seems to me that the pants are coming up... They don't sag quite as low any more. Some boxer must still show, but not the entire ass.
Thank god.
lol!
Also, the giant t-shirt thing is still pretty big here with the young men on the west coast. Giant t-shirts add another layer of cover for the boxer-covered ass that is exposed by the sagging pants.
It doesn't bother me too much.
I am FAR more concerned with what the girls are wearing!! Their asses really ARE exposed! In fact, their whole bodies are on display. Big problem, often with big consequences. :(
i never had to think about what a massive predicament it is to be watching your 6 month old alone and having a massive dump come along that you know is going to take 10-15 minutes...especially if your child is being really fussy.. -sab.
I didn't know how much I didn't know.
I knew they would have minds of their own, I just never REALLY knew they would have minds of their own. Before my first child was born, I thought my children would be like clay for me to mold.
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!
They started molding ME from the word go.
I didn't know they would change my ENTIRE world.
I didn't know how much I would worry.
I didn't know how much would be out of my control.
I didn't know how FAST those 18 years would fly by. Sure, people tell you, but still I just didn't know...
I didn't know how much I could love another person.
i challenge everyone on this board to show the same anger, hatred and racism at glenn beck's rally.
watch, listen, learn.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-glenn%e2%80%99s-disgrace-shocking-racism-at-al-sharptons-mlk-anniversary/.
LOL!
i challenge everyone on this board to show the same anger, hatred and racism at glenn beck's rally.
watch, listen, learn.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-glenn%e2%80%99s-disgrace-shocking-racism-at-al-sharptons-mlk-anniversary/.
Dark Side, you are totally right. There were racist speeches given at Sharpton's rally. People have already told you they agree with you on this point.
You 'won' this argument someplace on the first or second page I think.
Jesus Christ. 6 pages. Fucking amazing. The lefties on this board are like cockroaches. Actually, lefties everywhere are like cockroaches
That's very rude calling me, and all others with left leaning political views that disgusting name. Actually, I thought you were against name calling?
one of my best friends with whom i grew up (and pioneered) with has been disfellowshipped for the past 6 years.
his parents are still witnesses and, though they've been grieved over the fact that he's not a jw, they've always treated him well, and he pays them regular visits every month.. well he just informed me today that "the watchtower came out with stricter rules... my parents flat-out told me in person they can barely have any contact with me from now on.
" he's pretty depressed about it.. of course, the position on the disfellowshipped has largely been, "if they're out of the org, they're dead to you, family or not.
This has been the case since the "God's Love" book was published a few years back. One the appendix topics goes into a diatribe about how to treat DF'd family members.
Irony.
i challenge everyone on this board to show the same anger, hatred and racism at glenn beck's rally.
watch, listen, learn.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-glenn%e2%80%99s-disgrace-shocking-racism-at-al-sharptons-mlk-anniversary/.
Boy, you really get riled, don't you?
Yes, I'm a bit... excitable I suppose. I appreciate you all for letting me be me. Thanks for that.
PS Lisa I like you more every day!
LOL. So do I! Syl
I like you all, too!
i challenge everyone on this board to show the same anger, hatred and racism at glenn beck's rally.
watch, listen, learn.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-glenn%e2%80%99s-disgrace-shocking-racism-at-al-sharptons-mlk-anniversary/.
Lisa, I'm not trying to convince you of anything.
I'm just stating bald facts and asking a question: HOW do you educate people with that mindset?
I understand what you are saying. It's quite difficult (impossible?) to get through to and educate a 36 year old with 12 kids who is a drug addict and a whore... But.......that mindset wasn't there at her birth, you know? Even when they are 6 or 7 years old kids don't have that mindset, even the ones from really bad neigborhoods. No little 7 year old girl thinks, "Boy I'd like to grow up, I want to be a whore." Also, 7 year olds WANT to be educated. All of them. They all want to be able to read, to be smart, to learn about the world. It's so wonderful to see.
The 'mindset' comes later.
IMO, the education of those very young minds is the key. Education education education. And it's going to have to be done without the parents helping because they can't or won't. The best way to get to these kids is to get to them early. Quality, research based education all the way from kindergarten to 12th grade. Saddly that is not what our disadvantaged students get.
It takes more resouces to educate disadvantaged at-risk students than it takes to educate students from wealthy or middle class families. That's just a fact. Saddly, our society gives them LESS resources.
And that really gets me angry. They should at least get equal resources. But no.
Yeah, but at what point do we stop coddling the adults who continue to make horrible choices, and start holding them responsible?
For the woman with the 12 kids at some point she's got to start living in the here and now and figure out how to move forward. Making excuses for her doesn't help her.
I didn't say to coddle adults and not hold the resposible.
I said to educate them.
I said I can understand how she ended up where she is. I think if I had had to run away as a child, and if I had had to support myself in her neighborhood, I'm not so sure I wouldn't have fallen into the same mess she did. I have empathy for her situation. I'm not saying she gets a pass. I don't think I'm making excuses for her.
I'm saying let's, as a society, poor the needed resources into educating her 12 children, so that maybe they understand their potential to be productive members of society and have less painful lives than their mother.
(I probably get too fired up over this subject. thanks for listening to my rant about public education.)
