everything in the jw organization is tailored for obtaining new members.
do the math yourself and you will find out that's where it all leads to: getting more baptized members.
baptized members are expected to donate; it comes with the territory.
"Wouldn't it make better business sense to be just a little more tolerant?"
Nope. Once their followers have a taste of freedom, they'll crave more and more until they become a part of the world. They want their followers to have complete trust in only them, and the only way to do that is to have them on a tight leash.
It's the old 'Give them an inch and they'll take a mile' mentality.
the couple that i studied with were major hypocrites when it came to their entertainment choices.
i remember the first time i was invited to their house for dinner, this was the first time that we just hung out socially, and they were playing music.
a song came on sung by a girl group that liked to pretend they were bisexuals (or lesbians, whatever) and i thought 'hey, maybe these witnesses are pretty relaxed and cool after all'.. boy was i wrong.
Ha! I know JWs who wont watch certain Doctor Who episodes as well.
The Satan Pit was the big episode that messed them up.
everything in the jw organization is tailored for obtaining new members.
do the math yourself and you will find out that's where it all leads to: getting more baptized members.
baptized members are expected to donate; it comes with the territory.
I haven't got anything to add, but i completely agree with you.
You basically summed it up. They force their little lemmings to be uneducated, hard working, money making machines.
the couple that i studied with were major hypocrites when it came to their entertainment choices.
i remember the first time i was invited to their house for dinner, this was the first time that we just hung out socially, and they were playing music.
a song came on sung by a girl group that liked to pretend they were bisexuals (or lesbians, whatever) and i thought 'hey, maybe these witnesses are pretty relaxed and cool after all'.. boy was i wrong.
The couple that i studied with were major hypocrites when it came to their entertainment choices. I remember the first time i was invited to their house for dinner, this was the first time that we just hung out socially, and they were playing music. A song came on sung by a girl group that liked to pretend they were bisexuals (or lesbians, whatever) and i thought 'hey, maybe these witnesses are pretty relaxed and cool after all'.
Boy was i wrong. They would always bitch about the stuff that i watched/read/listened to etc. It seemed like every other week I'd get a lecture about how whenever i watched a TV show with supernatural elements, i would be inviting demons into my home. 'You know that you're involved in the occult, we don't need to tell you that.' they would say. Seriously, like watching a show about sexy butt-kicking witches is going to lead me into a life of sacrificing goats in the name of the prince of darkness. Give me a break.
Or they would bitch about how they would never watch what i do because they don't agree with what the characters are and what they do. They basically condemned me for watching a show that had a gay (or bisexual, whatever) guy as the main character. Now i wouldn't have a problem with that, that is... if they applied that logic to their own entertainment choices.
They would watch a TV show about a lovable murderer. I mean really, I'm making bad choices for watching a gay guy but you're just fine watching a killer who is presented as the good guy? I remember how they would watch it but they wouldn't buy it on DVD because she wouldn't be OK with it in her house.
Their child used to play The Sims 2. I would always laugh (on the inside of course, didn't want to be rude.) because they really had no idea of what she was getting into. That is a game based on star signs, with people that came back from the dead as ghosts, characters that start off as bisexual and the option of turning your character into a witch or zombie.
There was this one time when i was at their house and we were singing karaoke (ugh!). They got pissed at me for choosing to sing a Courtney Love song off of their disc. That was over the line because she sang about getting drugged up and her general trashiness. If you don't want people to sing that kind of music, then don't have it on your discs! Makes sense if you think about it...
Then I'd recommended movies to them, but they couldn't watch them because they were rated MA15+. What the geniuses didn't realize is that their favorite TV show had the exact same rating. That was probably for the best though, i would have seriously scarred them.
They were big downloaders too, probably only bought about half of their movies and music. I guess it never mattered who they were stealing from. I wonder what Jehovah would say about that?
Most of the TV shows and movies they watched were sci-fi and about war and violence. A favorite of theirs was about a war where the good guys believed in gods like Zeus, Apollo, Hera, Athena etc. and the bad guys believed in a One True God. This show HEAVILY portrayed Christians (or at least, Christian-like people) as crazed nut-jobs bent on genocide. You would have thought that rooting for a bunch of Zeus and Aphrodite groupies to obliterate an entire race would be below people with such high standards. But no...
I could go on and on with examples like these. And it's not only them, I've had similar experiences with other JWs as well. They preach about how evil the world is but secretly enjoy what the world has to offer behind closed doors. I remember once he said to me "Choose your entertainment as if Jehovah/Jesus were sitting right beside you watching it as well." I guess he doesn't like to follow his own advice...
I wish i had called them out on all their hypocritical preaching. So... has anybody else experienced similar situations?
michelle rodriguez on growing up a jehovah's witnessmarch 13, 2011 06:10 pm edtmichelle rodriguez is said to be one of the fastest rising female action stars in hollywood, and is often compared to angelina jolie.
she has many hit films under her belt, such as, avatar, the fast and the furious, and swat.
in a recent interview, the beautiful actress spoke about her childhood, and growing up as a jehovah's witness.. .
Wow, i had no idea!
Michelle is awesome in all her movies.
I don't think it would have been the violence that her parents had a problem with (though maybe it was). It was probably more to do with the occult considering the two examples she gave were The Smurfs and Snow White, both of which have an evil sorceror/witch.
I wonder if her parents are still in, and what they think of her tough-chick roles.
just curious if anyone has up to date numbers of worldwide active jws?
are there more that have left than are currently in?
they bang on about growth in numbers, but after reading the wtbs numbers heading towards 8 million, other threads have suggested its more like just over 7 million.. also being a newbie, and isolated due to illness, can anyone tell me about china and the work thats not happening.
"Just found some truely shocking sats...61% of baptised witnessess since 1993 are MISSING!!!???"
What in the world? Where is this from and has it been verified?
That doesn't seem right to me.
i think i may have reached another crossroads.
the most tolerant woman in the world and i were discussing it last night.
i've seen my loss of faith like a relationship breakup, i've done the gut wrenching fear bit and i've been heavily invested in the anger and angst phase where i've sought out people who believed as strongly as i once did and challenged them (like an ex-lover calling up for a shouting match.
"My wife pointed out that my lack of religion is my new religion. Fair point. I've thought I was over religion before but I find myself on forums posting stuff constantly - I've not yet learnt to let go."
I'm unaware of the details of your situation but i don't believe that it is unhealthy to discuss and have an interest in religion. Even if you don't subscribe to a religious belief system, you don't necessarily have to remove religious discussion from your life entirely. Unless of course, you want to.
Although, I can understand the need to let it go if you are obsessing about it to the point in which it affects your life.
Good luck!
i've always wondered if it was possible to create an entire human race from just two people?
a&e's children had to commit incest and then the next generation had to marry 1st cousins.
surely this would cause problems?
"I seem to recall reading somewhere that to populate one country, a good 25 humans of different backgrounds were needed?"
25 laboratory mice are needed to successfully prevent inbreeding within an outbred colony. So i would assume you are correct, and that the same applies for humans.
I've asked this question before when i was studying with the JWs. The only answer i ever got was that humans were more 'pure' back then so it kind of cancelled out the inbreeding that would result from their reproduction.
So yeah, never got a good answer to that one.
Edit: Now that i think about it, Adam and Eve we're supposed to be genetically perfect right? So from what i understand, they wouldn't pass on any genetic problems. Their children's children would just be inbred.
The only problems that could occur would be if their children had genetic mutations which resulted in negative effects, and then passed them on to the next generation.
Then again... since Eve came from Adams rib, that would mean that they share the exact same genetic information. So their children would be inbred after all.
first of all, i have severe arachnophobia.
rationally, i know most spiders are harmless, but something takes over my brain and my body when i see one........i totally freak out, i can't help it.
they are little pieces of death, wrapped in scarey...... .
"And if you think a spider in the car is bad try a daddy long legs on you steering wheel staring at you between your hands gripping the wheel!"
A daddy long legs won't hurt you that much, they will only cause a slight stinging sensation (their fangs are only 0.25mm). That is, if they even bother to bite you.
I used to play with them as a kid
first of all, i have severe arachnophobia.
rationally, i know most spiders are harmless, but something takes over my brain and my body when i see one........i totally freak out, i can't help it.
they are little pieces of death, wrapped in scarey...... .
"Sounds better than, say, prostate cancer...."
I wouldn't say that.
In those 3 minutes you'll experience:
