Posts by Shanagirl

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Overwhelming Fear of Death

by Perversion of a truth in

jw
friends

do any of the posters on here deal with this?

i do, and i hate it.

people (mostly my brother) tells me to not fear death and just to enjoy life and so on, but that doesn't seem to help any.

I have faced death twice with major illness. I do admit I have feared death in the past during my life, especially when I was a younger JW. But now, not so much. I'm still working out my spiritual leanings since leaving the Watchtower Cult. Tho, I was raised a Catholic before becoming a JW in 1969, and leaving in 2002, I went thru a period where I believed I had to keep my relationship with the Jehovah god but as time has gone by and I have explored other ancient religious and esoteric writings, I now don't really believe the Bible is the most accurate book to put faith in and give me the comfort I need regarding my fears of death and dying. Since, major health issues prompted me to examine how I feel, as well as traumatic events in my life, I had what some might call an epiphany. It was an accute realization within myself that I literally visualized during this time of trauma, that I felt truly connected to God as I pictured as Light embracing my own inner light. It was this intense feeling within myself that led me to search what this could mean, because I "knew" in my heart that this as not the WT god, but something I percieved as True God and Christ getting me thru this trauma. It was during those days I began looking reading a book "Jehovah Unmasked" which in turn led me to Gnostic scriptures and writings. It helped me to form my spiritual leanings I have now, and I honestly do not fear death. I do not have a longterm view of my future, and I'm ok with that.

Shana

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JW's Parked in front of House doing Returns, Not so good Feelings.

by Shanagirl in

ugh, i saw them this morning, 4 of them piling out of the car in front of my house and going to a few "not at homes" across the street.

it brought up a lot of uncomfortable feelings in me and especially seeing a former friend who's partially related to my husband's family thru marriage.

i saw her out the window staring at our home and it gave me the creeps.

Shanagirl

Thanks, Giordano, I do like a lot of his quotes, and can certainly apply them to those in the little car group in front of my house.

Shana

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JW's Parked in front of House doing Returns, Not so good Feelings.

by Shanagirl in

ugh, i saw them this morning, 4 of them piling out of the car in front of my house and going to a few "not at homes" across the street.

it brought up a lot of uncomfortable feelings in me and especially seeing a former friend who's partially related to my husband's family thru marriage.

i saw her out the window staring at our home and it gave me the creeps.

Shanagirl

Ugh, I saw them this morning, 4 of them piling out of the car in front of my house and going to a few "not at homes" across the street. It brought up a lot of uncomfortable feelings in me and especially seeing a former friend who's partially related to my husband's family thru marriage. I saw her out the window staring at our home and it gave me the creeps. A lot of drama and pain was associated with our disfellowshipping and she was part of it and we are now considered apostates. I really hate this cult. Seeing them triggers alot of unpleasant feelings and memories in me.

Shana

Red rose

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Were You Ever Comfortable Going From House To House?

by minimus in

jw
friends

because i was raised a witness, i don't think i was "uncomfortable" knocking on strangers' doors.

(weirdo).. but as i got older, i simply didn't want to bother anyone so i was at there door for no more than 30 seconds.

at the end i hated being there..

Shanagirl

I always hated it, especially if we did territory in my own neighborhood.

Shana

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Any explanation from the WT as to why Adam and Eve did not have sex before they sinned? (and other Genesis stumpers)

by BU2B in

(disclaimer- i know this is all fairy tales but i like to pick genesis apart since many millions still take it literally and is the foundtion of jw doctrine.

without genesis being real, the whole thing collpses).

i was just reading through genesis yesterday, and it really hit me.

Shanagirl

I came across this article and found it kind of interesting, so I'd like to share it.

Shana

Jehovah the Divine Liar

The Forbidden Knowledge

From: theforbiddenknowledge.com

The behavior of God in Eden is most peculiar. Eden is the pivotal moment in earth's history because what happened there set the stage for future events. It also gave an opportunity for someone to take over, educate and develop the human race for their own purposes.

What people have been taught is a lie and it goes AGAINST biblical scripture, logic and common sense. If one studies the bible carefully they will realize that it does not reflect that the Serpent was evil and trying to deceive the human race.

The ancient writings of the bible reveal a lot of information as to what went on 6,000 years ago in Eden. Through logic and common sense we can show that those ancient writings of the bible reflect the end result which we all can see plainly in the modern world.

Genesis 2:9; And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

The knowledge of good and evil was part of what you see on this web site. Part is knowing that evil must disguise itself as good in order to fool its target. The tactics used by evil are easy to spot. Evil often takes the truth and mixes it with falsehoods to deceive. Evil also withholds information as well:

And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Genesis 2:16-17

The above passage tells us that it was "the LORD God" who told mankind NOT to eat of the fruit which is symbolic for knowledge. Why should learning that information be a sin? Why is the withholding of knowledge consistent with the way modern government withholds information? The withholding of information is evil, is it not?

The behavior "God" exhibited in Eden is perfectly consistent with what evil would have to do if its goal were to take over the human race and control it. This in itself is consistent with the Luciferic symbols found in Washington D.C. Government plays the biggest part in world control. The bible also specifically tells us that Satan controls this world:

In whom the god of this world [Satan] hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. II Cor 4:4

The bible also warns us that Satan can disguise himself as God:

For even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their deeds. II Corinthians 11:14-15

Satan disguised himself in Eden and took control of earth from God. We know this to be true because of the many writings made by top level Freemasons which praise Lucifer. This explains one of the reasons why they chose the Luciferic layout for Washington D.C. We can also see that Freemasonry dominates the POWER seats within government and big business.

The Serpent who was trying to teach mankind the knowledge of good and evil was not Satan. The Serpent was someone labeled evil by those who were taking over the human race. Prince EA was the Serpent, he was trying to liberate the human race from its bondage.

Many references to God in the Old Testament were not God but were the Elohim. They were gods of war. Christ even taught that the God of the Old Testament was not His Father.

Evil cannot succeed without deception. This is why it uses the "good works" organization of Freemasonry to hide behind. It uses Freemasonry to control the world as proclaimed in the bible.

If you monitored the United States Government, you would have noticed its behavior exhibits the same as by "God" in Eden. There is no difference between the two! They came here along time ago and have been with us all through time. Many times in the past the United States government has both lied to and has withheld information from the people. It has violated human rights laws as well. These traits match that of "God" in Eden. My arguments are both sensible and logical. There is undeniable evidence which proves that earth is set up to empower those who control it and that they have evil intentions towards the human race

The idea behind world control is slavery. The bible says the Adam was created to work for God. This isn't the same God which is Christ's Father either. It was the ELOHIM.

It doesn't take much to control an entire world especially when you had control ofeverybody's education since the very beginning.

Many people are not aware that their Church is preaching falsehoods. Christians are a threat to Satan. Do you really think Satan would allow the Christian community to have the untainted truth?

After Christ left the world they went to work on His life story and what He taught. Rewriting even deleting His word.

The "original sin" was created to keep us away from knowledge, . . .

THE FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE!!!!

Article from: http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/behavior/index.htm

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Jealous Murderous OT Yahweh Jehovah really is Satan?

by Shanagirl in

i would love to start a discussion (not a debate) with others that follow the gnostic writings from the nag hammadi library.

i am a believer that pretty much every belief has some truths and fallacies.

some say its a game of 'only taking what you like out of something'.....i say, its using discernment to find the 'pure nature' of what god would be and is.

Shanagirl

Hi Crazyguy,

I love reasearching anceient religions and especially Gnostic writings. Thru my reading I've found that their are a lot of other ways to look at the stories in the bible. I do not believe that the Christ has anything to do with the god of the bible. Far from it. I think a lot of the writings in the old testament are taken from other religious stories passed down to the Israelites in ancient times. Here is what I see about Yahweh.

Job 41:20 Out of his [Leviathan] nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth. Yahweh is the Leviathan – the piercing serpent, that crooked serpent, the dragon that is in the sea! And here is description of Yahweh, the ‘God’ of bible.

Psalm 18:8, 2 Samuel 22:9 There went up a smoke out of his [Yahweh] nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.

Sounds like a dragon to me! Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world [through Christianity]: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels [i.e. demons , i.e. Jews] were cast out with him.

Shana

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Was There ANYTHING The Watchtower Taught You That Benefited You?

by minimus in

besides learning how to speak publicly, has the watchtower given you any benefits?

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Shanagirl

I found my husband while in the Watchtower religion. We have been married 42 years. He is my soulmate and love of my life and best friend, and father of our 4 children. Watchtower taught me that there are good people within, and some need to follow the path in a little detour in life to find each other, but eventually you can get out and be glad.

Shana

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Mormon leaders ordered to appear at a Brititish court over claims the organisations teachings amount to fraud....

by new hope and happiness in

according to the english press this morning mr phillips the head of the mormon church has been summoned to appear in court on the fraud act of 2006 which prohibits false representation being made that causes someone to loose money.. " this has been a very seriouse matter that has been looked at with extreme detail" prosecutors comment.. its interesting that the act is from 2006 and amoung other charges is the authentisity of the book...... .

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Shanagirl

If they want to go by that rule, one could say that all religions are a fraud

Shana

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Jealous Murderous OT Yahweh Jehovah really is Satan?

by Shanagirl in

i would love to start a discussion (not a debate) with others that follow the gnostic writings from the nag hammadi library.

i am a believer that pretty much every belief has some truths and fallacies.

some say its a game of 'only taking what you like out of something'.....i say, its using discernment to find the 'pure nature' of what god would be and is.

Shanagirl

Wolfman85,

Yes I do believe Jehovah and Satan are the same entity; The Devil, who inspired the writing in Job, whoever the author was, has left clues as to who, really the "God" of the Bible was speaking of in Job, and betting on the fact that most wouldn’t be smart enough to put 2 + 2 together.

The Devil’s greatest accomplishment has been to deceive the world into thinking he was ‘God’ and worshiping him as such!

“The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.” ~ Bible, Exodus 15:3

In Hebrew, Je or Jeh or Jah means Lord or God [ref].

The suffix “hovah” is No. 1943 in Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary and has the meaning of “ruin, mischief.”

It is another form of No. 1942, ‘havvah’, which is translated “calamity, iniquity, mischief, mischievous (thing), naughtiness, naughty, noisome, perverse thing, substance, very wickedness.”

Put the two (Je + hovah) together and you get “God of ruin, mischief, calamity, perversion, and wickedness”. And don’t forget ‘noisome‘ – which means it stinks! Simply put, Jehovah is The God of Evil!

Shana

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Jealous Murderous OT Yahweh Jehovah really is Satan?

by Shanagirl in

i would love to start a discussion (not a debate) with others that follow the gnostic writings from the nag hammadi library.

i am a believer that pretty much every belief has some truths and fallacies.

some say its a game of 'only taking what you like out of something'.....i say, its using discernment to find the 'pure nature' of what god would be and is.

Shanagirl

Hi Billy,

I think you misunderstand me. I do not blame God, the True God, Father God, spoken of by Christ. What I am saying is that I do not believe the Jehovah Yahweh god is the True God.