I had heard about it and it was explained to me that organ transplants amounted to cannabalism. I was young and naive then, but I never was clearly aware that the ban was no longer in effect.
Shana
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Did you know about the organ transplant ban when you were a believer?
by Apognophos inback when i was learning ttatt, i was shocked to read on jwfacts about the organ transplant ban from 1967 to 1980. this was a large piece of evidence for me that the society could not be god's organization.
growing up as an earnest witness, and living near the headquarters, i knew a lot of the organization's embarrassing history, and it didn't faze me, but i'd never heard of this ban before, and it shocked me.
it's gotten me wondering why no one i know ever talks about it, when it must have affected many witnesses during that time (or were they getting transplants on the sly?
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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?
by Shanagirl inhas this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?
did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.
shana.
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We never planned on attending our JC meeting. We knew they were gunning for us and wanted to intimidate us. My husband and I walked into the KH with a letter to hand them and just leave. When we walked in we noticed one room was full of JWs of all sort. Friends and aquaintances, MS's, pioneers, rank and file, with an elder their in the door way. The next room we were invited to go in by the elders standing outside. We walked in and saw a circle of chairs in a complete unbroken circle in the middle of the little room. There was also an elder from another congregation. I think it was a special committee. Anyway, they all walked in the room and invited us to sit down, as they began to take their seats. We stood there and told them we had no intention of sitting down and subjecting ourselves to their meeting and we had come to hand them our letter. I told them we had done nothing wrong and I looked at the elder from the other congregation and told him that it was they who were apostates not us. We walked out. But I've often wondered why they had staged the drama of that intended JC meeting. We had already been gone from the congregation meetings for 2 years when we got the phonecall from the elder and the secret elder listening in. Shortly after we got the letter about the JC meeting charging us with "apostacy". So we knew when we went in there that day they were after us. Thank you for all your comments.
Shana
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Want to hear something funny ?
by troubled mind inmy husband just won the city wide holiday light display for christmas i am so proud .
just a few short years ago i was the one that put a strand of white lights around the porch railing ,and a couple of lighted deer in the yard ....that brought the elders around real quick (after three years of silence ) at that time my husband was still holding onto the notion his faith was not bond to a cult .
it didn't take long after the 'loving sheparding call' for him to see things in another light.
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Awsome, Christmas Blessings to you and your family!
Shana
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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?
by Shanagirl inhas this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?
did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.
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Seriously. I want to know how often this happen s when one is called before a committee, and why the chairs are put in a circle to seat more than 3 elders, but the whole body. Are there any elders on this board who would know the answer to this question?
Shana
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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?
by Shanagirl inhas this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?
did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.
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Is there some kind of protcol for this arrangement in their elders' book?
Shana
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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?
by Shanagirl inhas this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?
did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.
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What would be the reason for them doing this?
Shana
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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?
by Shanagirl inhas this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?
did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.
shana.
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Has this ever happened to anyone who has been DF'd here? Did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?
Shana
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Death and perspective
by Separation of Powers ini realize today, at this moment in time, at this moment, this exact moment in my life the absolute futility of everything.
i sit here, at this desk, in front of this screen, my head is spinning and my mind wanders through all those moments of interaction with someone who has just left this life.
no, he wasn't a family member, he wasn't even a friend really, an acquaintance, a casual work related interaction.
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SoP, your words make me think of a song that was popular in 1969 by Peggy Lee "Is That All There Is?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCRZZC-DH7M&feature=youtube_gdata
Shana
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Elders and priests what 's the difference?
by sparrowdown inis being a "good" elder the same as being a "good" catholic priest?.
is there any difference between representing the rcc and representing that other bastion of child abuse the wt?.
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You raise an interesting point shana, I think the JWs have been more effective in keeping victims silent.
JW victims can be reluctant to report abuses (of various kinds) out of fear of "bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name".
Which we all know is one of the gravest sins of all.
TTWSYF,
It's all about protecting the family secret with these pedophiles. They use the excuse of ""bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name" as the reason for silencing the victims and families of the victims. Victims are told "not to talk about it" or they could be slandering the accused molester. Now they are being threatened to keep silent or face charges of slander, or causing divisions. It's disgusting, and the Catholic Church does not even measure up to the amount of pedophilia kept secret within the Watchtower files. Just saying.
Shana
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Elders and priests what 's the difference?
by sparrowdown inis being a "good" elder the same as being a "good" catholic priest?.
is there any difference between representing the rcc and representing that other bastion of child abuse the wt?.
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Pedophilia is more prevelent in JW's than the Catholic Church. There's more of it because it's also tied to incest and incestuous families of elders protectng the pedophiles. These families interamarry within their circuits usually and the co- dependant family members are intercongregational within a circuit. The secrecy is what causes a conspiracy of silence to shut up the victims and keep the secret of elders' families.
Shana