Awsome, Christmas Blessings to you and your family!
Shana
Shanagirl
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Want to hear something funny ?
by troubled mind inmy husband just won the city wide holiday light display for christmas i am so proud .
just a few short years ago i was the one that put a strand of white lights around the porch railing ,and a couple of lighted deer in the yard ....that brought the elders around real quick (after three years of silence ) at that time my husband was still holding onto the notion his faith was not bond to a cult .
it didn't take long after the 'loving sheparding call' for him to see things in another light.
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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?
by Shanagirl inhas this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?
did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.
shana.
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Shanagirl
Seriously. I want to know how often this happen s when one is called before a committee, and why the chairs are put in a circle to seat more than 3 elders, but the whole body. Are there any elders on this board who would know the answer to this question?
Shana
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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?
by Shanagirl inhas this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?
did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.
shana.
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Shanagirl
Is there some kind of protcol for this arrangement in their elders' book?
Shana
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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?
by Shanagirl inhas this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?
did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.
shana.
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Shanagirl
What would be the reason for them doing this?
Shana
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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?
by Shanagirl inhas this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?
did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.
shana.
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Shanagirl
Has this ever happened to anyone who has been DF'd here? Did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?
Shana
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Death and perspective
by Separation of Powers ini realize today, at this moment in time, at this moment, this exact moment in my life the absolute futility of everything.
i sit here, at this desk, in front of this screen, my head is spinning and my mind wanders through all those moments of interaction with someone who has just left this life.
no, he wasn't a family member, he wasn't even a friend really, an acquaintance, a casual work related interaction.
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Shanagirl
SoP, your words make me think of a song that was popular in 1969 by Peggy Lee "Is That All There Is?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCRZZC-DH7M&feature=youtube_gdata
Shana
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Elders and priests what 's the difference?
by sparrowdown inis being a "good" elder the same as being a "good" catholic priest?.
is there any difference between representing the rcc and representing that other bastion of child abuse the wt?.
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Shanagirl
You raise an interesting point shana, I think the JWs have been more effective in keeping victims silent.
JW victims can be reluctant to report abuses (of various kinds) out of fear of "bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name".
Which we all know is one of the gravest sins of all.
TTWSYF,
It's all about protecting the family secret with these pedophiles. They use the excuse of ""bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name" as the reason for silencing the victims and families of the victims. Victims are told "not to talk about it" or they could be slandering the accused molester. Now they are being threatened to keep silent or face charges of slander, or causing divisions. It's disgusting, and the Catholic Church does not even measure up to the amount of pedophilia kept secret within the Watchtower files. Just saying.
Shana
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Elders and priests what 's the difference?
by sparrowdown inis being a "good" elder the same as being a "good" catholic priest?.
is there any difference between representing the rcc and representing that other bastion of child abuse the wt?.
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Pedophilia is more prevelent in JW's than the Catholic Church. There's more of it because it's also tied to incest and incestuous families of elders protectng the pedophiles. These families interamarry within their circuits usually and the co- dependant family members are intercongregational within a circuit. The secrecy is what causes a conspiracy of silence to shut up the victims and keep the secret of elders' families.
Shana
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Our JW Friend told by Elder "Satan is using a Pedophile to Break your Faith"
by flipper ini was given permission by a jw friend of my wife and me to post this experience.
she's anonymous and posts on the board.
she is married to a witness still but is fighting on behalf of children in her congregation to not be a next victim of a pedophile who attends her congregation.
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Shanagirl
Flipper, the bottom line is that your friend is realizing in her heart of hearts that this is not a religion that represents God. It has nothing to do with what the elder told her about Satan testing her faith thru the pedophile. It has to do with her awakening to the fact that her religious community is no longer a safe place to be with and her religious leaders are blind to the fact that this pedophile is a real threat to the safety of the children in her religious community, and they don't give a dam about it. This is so identical to a situation I experienced when I finally stopped pioneering, and left that horrible religion. I hope your friend does not subject herself to going there, and even pay a visit to the prosecutors office and report what she is seeing.
Shana
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Here we go again. The next hate letter from our 2nd Son.
by Still Totally ADD inyes it happen again with our youngest son.
this last monday we got a letter from him telling us how unloving we are because we are no longer jw.
cult and not had kids.
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Shanagirl
ADD, As a parent of adult children, I can only imagine what you must be going thru. My family all got out together even though 2 of my children married JW's, now divorced. I often applogize to them for raising them in that cult. The only thing you can say is that you could no longer stay with that belief system because it was stealing your integrity if you remained an elder. Let your son know you will always love him and if he chooses to visit and bring the children, he will always be welcome in your home. Obviously he loves you too and is angry right now. He's angry and this letter is a way to try to engage you in some way. JW's always blame those that leave for the reason they have to shun them. Try to speak lovingly to him and that you left not to hurt him but because you could no longer consciencously follow this religion and have a clear heart.
I remember when I suddenly knew in my heart I could no longer stay with it. I was out in service one day and was a regular pioneer, and I began crying, and filled with tears telling the elder ovrseer that I could no longer preach and it was no longer in my heart to do so. I went thru a rough time leaving but I did stop going after a lot of therapy and the support of my husband and children who were then just out of highschool. My youngest was 11 tho, and when we stopped attending a friend from the Hall who's daughter played with her, told me they would continue to pick her up and bring her to the meetings even if I couldn't bring myself to go. I said absolutely not, because I knew if I allowed this they would turn her against me. She grew up "out of the truth" and celebrating holidays with us and had a "normal' life. I'm so glad I took her out. My other kids do still have old JW issues, but no longer consider themselves part of that religion anymore. Interestingly, my husband and I got disfellowshipped, but none of my children did. Our older son was a Bethelite and I pioneered with my daughter when we were in.
So I guess because of their JW roots, they totally don't get the holidays the way my husband and I and our daughter do. We all celebrate together, but I see only my youngest daughter with the genuine holiday spirit.
I do hope you can work it out with your son. It's so sad the way this religion ruins natural family relationships.
Shana