I hope Ray Franz was in there and was cast in a good light! :D
What a cool guy! RIP!
Tim x
that was the biggest piece of propaganda garbage that i ever seen in my life !!!!!!!
in literally all 28 years of my life!!!!!!!.
i dont want to spoil it for anyone, so i wont mention what they didnt mention...but basically, they made themselves look like victims.. but of course, they did mention persecution, the new world translation of the holy scriptures(because jehovah's name had cruelly been taking out of the bible by the corrupt religious leaders), and the biblically based arrangement of the governing body.. i'm in utter shock .
I hope Ray Franz was in there and was cast in a good light! :D
What a cool guy! RIP!
Tim x
dealing with family.
1. how can i talk to my parents?.
2. why are we always arguing?.
Interesting point:
"Curiously the homosexual topic has gone from "Why do I have these feelings" to "How can I explain the Bible's view of homosexuality?" IDK just caught my eye."
Being a gay JW, I HATE this!
From my experience the JWs have no idea what causes these feelings... and guess what... THEY DONT CARE! They just expect blind obedience even when those who are "suffering with this illness" ie. me, have been on the verge of suicide because of this issue. I understand the bible views on homosexuality but the brothers writing these books have no idea how their doctrines are affecting the minds of young people who will read them and will feel sick, twisted and perverted. It annoys me! Took me a while to get over it myself. Now i feel happy!
I cant wait to read the article when the book comes out! If anyone has a PDF version, please post! :D
Tim x
does anyone have links for pdfs of any of the convention releases this year?.
many thanks..
SD7! Can i say... i think your Breat-Tower Articles are DEAD FUNNY!!! You have clearly read the Watchtower for a long period of time. You have learnt how to copy the styles they use so well! Keep them coming! HEHE!!!
YES... I WANT TO SEE THE NEW STUFF BEFORE ANYONE IN MY CONG!!! :D
...i was told but they usually were as i look back.. as a lad i'd sit and look to see who the lights would fall on.
i'd get an almond and see how long i could suck it before i chewed at it.
i'd imagine playing rock'n'roll on the congregation's piano.. how did you get through the meetings when you were bored?.
Deface literature! HAHA!!! :D
Sometimes my brother would write VERY VERY VERY funny captions to illustrations and photos in the Watchtower.
I would read them and couldnt contain myself. A number of times i laughed at loud in the meetings.
Good times!
hi everyone.. its been 3 months since accepting my sexuality.
im now very happy, im getting to know a lovely guy and im becoming more and more open about who i am.
within the congregation, im slipping away rapidly, and to be quite frank i couldnt care less what they think.. there is only one issue in my mind - the response from my dad when i tell him that i am gay.
Hi everyone.
Its been 3 months since accepting my sexuality. Im now very happy, im getting to know a lovely guy and im becoming more and more open about who I am.
Within the congregation, im slipping away rapidly, and to be quite frank i couldnt care less what they think.
There is only one issue in my mind - the response from my dad when i tell him that i am gay. He is the only JW who's opinion realy matters to me.
He knows already that i have no interest in continuing with this rather opressive religion, but sometime soon i want to tell him the full reason why - my sexuality.
Im sick of lying now. Id rather just be open and honest with myself and with those around me and with those i care for.
How can i tell him? Any ideas?
Thanks,
Timmy XXX
some of my favorite people are~.
after leaving the religion, my lesbian couple friends were the most compassionate people, and i will always love them!.
i am heterosexual, but find gays to be absolutely fabulous!!.
Thanks! I love being gay! :D
so i havnt been to a meeting now for about a month or so!
today, i decided for a change that id just go!
it was so boring... one young sister gave a good talk however.
Thanks everyone!
It has been a good few weeks actualy! :)
Just feeling great about everything!
Hi Paula! :) How are you? Im doing grand! I can feel things stirring up now, but i dont realy care! Im too happy now to be bothered about all the rubbish that im soon to come against. I think i went to the meeting realy because i wanted to see some friends and just show my face! At the moment im trying my best to chop my attendance down and i dont actualy want to cause any major issues or start any kind of inquisition. Sounds pathetic and stupid! But at the moment, i still need to be careful with the whole thing. Im trying to be strategic! In a few months, im hoping that i can drop it alltogether! Actualy, at the moment, if i see a talk or something that im interested in, i will go to it!
I have already done the research about the FDS too! They are not that F and D! HEHE!!! There is no point in my researching it because iv made up my mind. Lol!
Anyway, im so happy with the support he has been giving me! What a brilliant guy he is! :D He is so concerned too with how he may stir up troubles with the JWs for me. I told him not to worry as this is something i need to do! How sweet is that of him!????
Anyway, ill be back sometime in the future with an update of how im getting on!
See you all soon!
Tim xxx
so i havnt been to a meeting now for about a month or so!
today, i decided for a change that id just go!
it was so boring... one young sister gave a good talk however.
Hi everyone!
So I havnt been to a meeting now for about a month or so! Today, i decided for a change that id just go! IT WAS SO BORING... One young sister gave a good talk however. It just shocks me how little they talk about True Christian principles and instead focus on the endless dronings of the importance of the field service. The truth is, i understand that the organisation has no claim at all to run our lives and after reading Crisis of Conscience i firmly believe this.
My reasons for not going are many, but basicaly they stem from the fact that i have recently embraced my sexuality as a gay man and have thus concluded that as i am condemend by the religion I may aswell give up alltogether. I am doing very well since embracing my sexuality. I have met a WONDERFUL young man who i think is marvellous. We have been spending lots of time together while my attendance at meetings and on field service has been waning severely.
One sister spoke to me today and told me that she and many others have been worrying a lot. I find that sweet but i wish they would open thier eyes. Im not turning my back on this organisation - it is turning its back on me. She knows that i have had issues in fully agreeing that the 'Faithful and Discreet Slave Class' are appointed by Jesus to feed us. I just totaly disagree with that teaching. it makes no sense to me whatsoever, but like all Witnesses who just go along with little or no questioning whatsoever, she told me that i SERIOUSLY need to reconsider the basic 'truths' and teachings of the organisation. The fact is, for the past month or two i have been reading my bible more and more, and thus have realised that Christianity is simply doing the will of God and following Christ. Granted, im not the best Christian, but im still going to try my very best to show my appreciation for his ransom. Im fed up of all the oraganisational doctrine. Im sick of following the rules and traditions of men as opposed to those of Jesus.
Since accepting my sexuality, my life has taken an entirely new direction... i feel the old me is dying away and i feel reborn, free and best of all HAPPY!!! :D
Some of you here have helped me in this process, so i thank you, and thanks for reading my ramblings here!
Love you all,
Timmy xxx
i dont usualy do this, but does anyone have and gossip or dirt on the now deceased gb member, theodore jaracz?.
ive heard rumours that he wasnt a very nice man and after reading crisis of conscience, i can believe it!.
anyone got any articles or links i can read up on?.
Hi everyone,
I dont usualy do this, but does anyone have and gossip or dirt on the now deceased GB member, Theodore Jaracz?
Ive heard rumours that he wasnt a very nice man and after reading Crisis of Conscience, i can believe it!
What do you know about him? Anyone got any articles or links i can read up on?
Thanks,
Timmy xxx
hi everyone.. iv been a jw for 3 years and iv been attending meetings since i was young!
im now 23. i have recently accepted that im gay and id now like to leave the organisation.. im trying to do things bit by bit, and i wanted to ask you all for some advice and ideas.. personaly, at the moment, id rather just phase myself out than hand in a letter of dissasociation - although i likely will arrive at that point within the next 6 months or so.. i have been quite well known in my congregation as a serious, kind and spiritual young man, and at the moment, im attending less and less meetings and not going out on the ministry as much.. i keep getting constant calls from elders asking about me and wondering where i am.
i understand their concern but its a little annoying, and unlike the majority of you here, i just couldnt tell them to get lost or to leave me alone as its just not who i am.
Thanks for your responses everyone! I appreciate it!
I have thought of and considered a number of your points. Taking classes during meeting times is a good one and in September (if i last that long) im going to do it! :)
I think also i could move to another cong and just not bother going! Thats a good idea too! :) At the moment i still live with my parents, and moving out is not a feasible choice at the moment! I believe it would bring a lot of strain at the present moment! In the future, i will be gearing up for it though! :)
I like the idea of just leaving... but again, i dont know how it would pan out! I will consider this a little more... i think it will happen soon anyway! :)
Telling them i need time alone is a good one too! The truth is, i have been depressed and i have spent a lot of time working things out in my mind already! This is most viable and i like the idea of being honest and saying i just wish to be left alone for now to sort out the issues i am feeling. They dont need to know what the issues are.
I screen calls already! Did it yesterday! HEHE!!! :)
Thanks Coffee House Girl! You have given me some good ideas too and thanks for the kind words of encouragement! :)
I do have family in the Borganisation and i think this will make things slightly tough at the moment! They arnt realy ideal JWs, but still, it makes the situation slightly more compicated unfortunately! :(
Im going to keep it all simple then! I am also currently spending quite a lot of time developing friendships with non JW's! Its nice too... even that feels liberating! :) Thanks for your ideas and support!
Hehe sometimes i wish i had that skill of being able to tell people to f*** off! Lol!
Anyway, thanks everyone for your thoughts! :)
I really appreciate it!
Timmy xxx