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Pika_Chu
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June 15th WT - WT Society Pressures JW Parents to Indoctrinate Children
by flipper inin a non-study article in the jw only watchtower is an article titled " should youths get baptized ?
" the wt society is losing young people in very large numbers - so how else to try stemming the exodus than putting pressure on jw parents to indoctrinate and instill mind control into their children ?
in one section here in this article it almost sounds like a version of " 20 questions " that the wt society asks parents to determine if their children are making " spiritual progress " as they phrase it.
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Pika_Chu
@Elorm: Hello, and welcome to this forum. I can see you weren't too pleased with some of our comments on here. It really helps to be "in the know" about JWs, because everyone on this forum considers the religion to be a harmful cult. Our anger is not because we don't want JW kids to dedicate our lives to God, we just don't want them dedicating their lives to this religious organization. Actually, they ask us questions at baptism and one of them asks us if we are being baptized in the name of Jehovah (the father), his son (Jesus), and the SPIRIT-DIRECTED ORGANIZATION. So, it's quite a contract there.
Some background knowledge you may not be aware of: the Jehovah's Witnesses are a "we're the only true way" kind of religion, they are fundamentalists, they isolate members from the outside world (it's supposed to be destroyed at armageddon, and only JWs will survive God's wrath), they believe all other religions (and the world's governments) are unwittingly under Satan's control, so certain things happen when you become baptized as a JW. If you choose to leave the religion (especially if you leave to become a different kind of Christian; for some reason, the other Christian groups in the world are demonized more often than any other major religious classification), you are subject to a shunning practice, wherein the defector is considered a bad person and, more often than not, are completely cut off from having all contact with friends and family who are still active JW. In fact, that's why so many of us are members of this forum. Many of us got baptized, left, and were shunned. This forum is the place we go to for healing after that.
And, for your other questions, yes, some of us are still Christians, and others are Atheists (like yours truly), some of us are between the two, some of us belong to completely different belief systems unlike the previously mentioned.
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Introducing Myself
by StandFirm inhello to jwn!
this is standfirm.
i mainly post on the topix jehovah's witness forum, but i decided to give it a try over here also.
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Pika_Chu
Hi standfirm. Welcome. I do have a question though. You said are talking points are logically deficient. Could you please state a specific example? Better yet, would you care for a nice debate on a new thread? I would enjoy that, and I promise to be on my best behaviour...
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Pika_Chu
Okay, PEMDAS, please excuse my dear aunt sally, Bedmas, those are all correct, what needs to be understood is that multiplication may come first in the acronym, but multiplication and division are part of the same step and on the same level of priority. Thus, the problem is done left-to-right.
The problem depends on whether or not 2(1+2) is in the denominator or not. In other words, is the equation asking "six divided by everything to the right of the division symbol" or simply "six divided by 2, also, 2 times the quantity of 1 plus 2?" If the equation was asking the former, then it would be written as follows:
6/[2(1+2)], the brackets being used to indicate that the denominator includes EVERYTHING TO THE RIGHT OF THE SYMBOL. Since these brackets are not there, then there is no reason to assume that the equation is asking that you divide by everything to the right of the symbol, thus we conclude the equation is saying the same thing as 6/2 times (1+2).
6/2(1+2), step one, no matter what, is parentheses (or brackets, because brackets are like second-level parentheses), then we get 6/2*3, if we work left to right, we get 3*3, or 9, for the value of x.
To verify, we break the equation down into all of its seperate parts. Can we all agree that the left of the equals sign states the following?
6 divided by 2 times 3? If so, then there are three numbers we are dealing with here. If I move things around a bit in the equation 6/2*3=x (by way of dividing both sides by 3), I can make the equation look like this:
(6/2*3)/3=x/3.
The threes cancel out on the left side, I am left with 6/2=x/3, and 6/2=3, so
3=x/3, we multiply both sides by 3 to get x, and again, we get x=9.
For FURUTHER verification, we can substitute 9 with x back into the equation, like so: 6/2*3=x, x=9, so that means 6/2*3=9, then I divide both sides by three again:
I get 6/2=9/3, reduce the fractions, we get the following:
3=3. The statement is true, therefore, x=9.
Now I'll substitute the alternative solution and see if it works, given x=1.
6/2*3=1, first step, we divide both sides by 3, we get:
6/2=1/3, reduce the fractions, we get this result:
3=/=1/3, 3 is NOT equal to 1/3, so 1 is an incorrect value of x. Thus, the correct answer was the afforementioned x=9. Oddly enough, though, 3 and 1/3 are INVERSES...interesting...
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JWs Not Allowed to Post on Websites?
by StandFirm inthis seems to be a favorite topic to bring up to any witnesses who post on any website where there are any opposers, either here or topix or anywhere.. so, here is the one and only place i will be discussing it.
who can prove that witnesses are specifically told not to post on websites about them?.
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Pika_Chu
Hi Standfirm. While the Society doesn't exactly say to stay off the internet, they worn JWs about internet "dangers." Most of the time, this means apostate websites. I think you should know that this website is overrun with apostates (hint: I'm one too). Just know that you are posting here at your own risk. It wasn't too long ago that I thought like you and I began to explore websites like this. And, well, look how I ended up. So, you have that to think about. Now, I noticed you said earlier that the elders and the society aren't going to micro-manage your life, and I respect that. If it doesn't violate your conscience to be here, then that's fine, let's talk more. Trusting your trained conscience versus trusting in imperfect men with authority is a sign of maturity and reasonableness. Good for you then. But I also have to warn you that you are outnumbered here, and you can expect to get bashed around if you provoke us. Like I said, you are here at your own risk.
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StandFirm Says The Watchtower Society Has Never Lied!
by LostGeneration incheck it out:.
http://stayawake-standfirm.blogspot.com/2011/04/watchtower-society-has-never-lied.html.
standfirms disclaimer is that the definition of a lie is: "to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive"-emphasis added.. of course, other definitions of lie include: .
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Pika_Chu
Okay, whenever you lie, you are deceiving even if you don't mean to. And when you realize it's wrong, you correct it. And if you are REALLY interested in the REAL truth, you make sure your info is accurate. That's what truth is. And the WT doesn't do that.
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Any videogamers here?
by R.F. inthis is my #1 hobby.
i have a ps2, psp, and xbox.
i was mainly an xbox kind of guy until they completely abandoned it soon after the 360 was released.
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Pika_Chu
BUMP! Great thread! Gotta ressurect it!
Anyway, games are one of my favorite passtimes. I like the classic arcade ones, the modern first-person shooters, the adventure games. I like the Sims, but they're too repetitive. Smash Brothers is awesome, the Tony Hawk, snowboarding, and wrestling games are awesome and I like fighting games. Also, I like the pokemon gameboy games and other RPGs. So, yeah, all kinds! Video Games are awesome!
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Pika_Chu
Yay!!! This WAS the droid I was looking for!
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Pika_Chu
Um, wasn't God partial to the Hebrews? And they were commanded to kill people of other tribes on the bases of race and religion? This is just a way to frame things to where Darwin and Evolution get demonized.
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Pika_Chu
Oh, yeah, and Stephen Freakin Colbert...he's great. I don't know about not being opinionated, but I prefer my misery and world events with coffee and a laugh. Gotta be positive sometimes and just realize politics is BS and a game we can laugh at.