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just a quick "hi" & introduction
by grumblecakes inim a wee bit shy/scared of all this, but just wanted to introduce myself real quick...here goes.... .
hey there everybody!
im grumblecakes.
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Atheist Book of Bible Stories
by crystlew123 inok so i dl'd this book.
and i immediatly began reading it.
i am about 50 pdf pages into it.
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Knowsnothing
What Catholics mean is that scripture, taken in its whole, does not lead to error but leads to a truer understanding of our relationship with God. This is true when, and only when, the tradition and teaching of the Church are taken into account. The claim of truth is limited to God's plan for human salvation. - Sulla
Ahh... here we go at the heart of the matter. Catholicism is tradition, plain and simple.
Since Adam and Eve weren't real, what exactly do humans need salvation for? What are we to be "saved" from?
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Jwfacts, Why Do You Equate Miracles With Magic?
by Recovery ini have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.
as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.
"the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.
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Since 8/27/2012
No, King Solomon, I do not believe miracles occur in 2012, but I'm sure magic occurs.
Let's get started on debunking the underlying superstitions you hold. I've yet to see anything supernatural for myself. The only "proof" I've ever had are second-hand accounts. That's not a good sign for magic nor miracle.... If you have any experience you would like to share... by all means.
Now, this is reality TV at its best. This month, Indians were glued to their television as India’s leading tantrik or black magician Pandit Surinder Sharma tried repeatedly to kill atheist Sanal Edamaruku first with a death-causing tantra and then later with the “ultimate destruction ceremony” on live TV. This display was the result of a high-ranking government official Uma Bharati (former chief minister of the state of Madhya Pradesh) accusing her political opponents of using tantrik to cause disasters in her life.
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What REALLY Convinced You To Leave/Lose Faith in JWs?
by Recovery inid like to know what personally convinced you jws are wrong about a particular doctrine/practice, that they are not gods true.people and/or what made you leave emotionally/physically.
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The plurality of belief in God/Gods. If God is just, righteous, the defender of all that is good, why allow such a massive "operation of error" go unchecked? Why not intervene? Why the suffering?
Prayer doesn't work, for anyone. All one has to do is believe, then prayer becomes "real".
I lost faith in the Bible. Adam and Eve, the Flood, Jesus referring to these are real events. It all crumbles down. There is no such thing as salvation, sin, Satan, God, etc. Life makes a lot more sense without trying to justify it with the miraculous intervention of invisible deities that are unprovable.
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Believe it or not, another brief elder encounter yesterday...
by sd-7 init was another elder from my judicial committee, came up to me after i'd strapped my daughter into the car.
two things that struck me as different were (1) he didn't feel a need to bring a second elder along with him as if something that required two witnesses was going to be said by someone who'd been df'd for two years and 99.9% absent from meetings as well, and (2) he actually seemed genuinely friendly.
he simply asked if i was planning to come to the meetings again anytime soon.
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Didn't really need to vent about it this time, just thought it was worth mentioning since I started talking about myself again lately. I do wonder when the Mrs. is going to find out about sd-7. I suppose it'll probably nuke our marriage if she ever does. I've said some pretty bad things about her in the past, that I would rather have kept to myself in hindsight. Well, it could be for the best anyway if that were to happen, sad as it is to say that. I've often wondered if anyone I know actually knows I'm on here, but none so far have brought it to my attention. I imagine things would get pretty ugly if they knew. At this point, though, how much more ugly can there be? The bombs dropped years ago, the madness is over now. As long as I don't strike the match, the flames won't get too hot and might even die off on their own, who knows? Ha! - sd-7
Good luck man. How would you feel without her? That is a serious question I have to contemplate myself about my family. It may be happening real soon....
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Were Adam and Eve created with immune systems?
by Knowsnothing inhey!
yeah you, apologists.
god created adam and eve perfect, right?
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Hey! Yeah you, apologists. God created Adam and Eve perfect, right? With the ability to live forever? The earth was perfect as well, right? Everything that would ever be needed was put into it... The WT and the Bible claim that "death will be no more" and "no more sickness, death" etc. (Revelation 21:3,4). This was the original plan. Everything was spotless, perfect. No blips in the system.
Oh, now here come Adam and Eve after the Fall. They will either get sick, or they will die of old age. So... God provisionally puts in them an immune system? Or was that immune system always there? Why would Adam and Eve need an immune system in a place where no sickness or disease existed?
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Where has the the society changed the bible to reflect their teachings?
by loosie ini am having a discussion with a jw who has contacted me on facebook.
we are discussing the changed the wt society made to hte bible.
in short he says he has a hebrew friend and that friend says the nwt is correct and no changes have been made.
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Loosie, let's start with this.
Just because your jw has a jew friend, doesn't make that jew an authority on Biblical scholarship automatically. Credentials?
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by Rabbit in"saturday, september 22, 2012 12:36 pm pdttoddler dies after battle with kidney disease.
tvnz sat, 22 sep 2012 11:42 am pdt.
a jehovah'switness toddler, whose organ transplant became the centre of a court case, has died.".
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Rabbit, my condolences for the passing of your mom. I honestly don't know what I would do if I faced that situation in which my mother decided against a blood transfusion... I would want to keep her, but I also feel a duty to respect her choice, no matter how wrong I think it is. If I overstepped it, I know I would loose her anyways.
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by Rabbit in"saturday, september 22, 2012 12:36 pm pdttoddler dies after battle with kidney disease.
tvnz sat, 22 sep 2012 11:42 am pdt.
a jehovah'switness toddler, whose organ transplant became the centre of a court case, has died.".
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Atheist Book of Bible Stories
by crystlew123 inok so i dl'd this book.
and i immediatly began reading it.
i am about 50 pdf pages into it.
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Hey Sulla. Sorry I took so long to get back to you. I've been busy.
I think it bothers you to hear anybody who is religious speak this way about scripture, but it is really an off-the-shelf version of Catholic and Jewish
thinking.
What is the official version then? I went out with a girl that was extremely Catholic. She believed Catholic Mass should go back to be read in Latin, with the priest not facing the crowd. Pre-Tridentine Mass.
Can you tell me more about your specific interpretation?
But didn't Jesus address this question? He said, "You were allowed to divorce because y'all were knuckleheads, but I tell you now that marriage is a lifetime proposition.
Jesus said a lot of things. "Just as in the days of Noah"..... er herm.......
Again, convinient to site the words that support your position.
To say you don't care how the Jews intended their books to be read, or that you don't care what the Catholics were trying to do by collecting this group
of books and not some other group is simply a declaration that you don't intend to read the work honestly.
Re: schismatic history. Which official source again? Pharisees? Saducees? Pope yoo-hoo, Church Fathers, Pius IV.....?
Let's cut to the chase. The Resurrection? I don't believe it happened. What "manner of reading it" can make such an event any more or less true? That's the heart of all Christian doctrine. No resurrection.... no nothing.