suit targets jehovahs witnesses
benton complaint about sex abuse and church policy is said to be the first of hundreds across the u.s.. .
the setup is such that the elders are the voice of the watchtower, and the watchtower is the voice of christ.
This suit was one of the stories on radio news this morning at 7:30 in Eugene, Oregon. It had been used as a teaser to advertise the news show for hours beforehand.
Path --- I wholeheartedly agree with you. Concise definitions of Watchtower phrasology and matching arguments are desperately needed.
LoneWolf
hi, this is windrider,.
i've spent a great deal of time and research into all that has been occuring within the watchtower world, especially since the "siege" on 9/27/02.having personally experienced the stupidity of the watchtower spin doctors during the "seige", i can in all honestly say that these people have committed "theocratic treason" against the god they claim to worship and betrayl against the sheep they claim to "protect.
" the entire scope of who they really are is very obvious, when one examines it's infrastructure.
Hi, Paulie34 ---
If you actually have some info that is factual and provable, send it to me and I'll be happy to post it. My email is open.
LoneWolf
i have just been informed that our good friend queenie is in the hospital due to compications caused by diabetes.
she is likely to remain in the hospital for at least a couple of weeks.
i am sure that you will all join me in wishing our queenie a speedy recovery.
I was talking to a couple of her interns a little while ago. They said that she was cuter than a bug's ear, but that it was rather disconcerting the way she kept biting them in the ankles.
LoneWolf
received this in email tonight and thought you all would like it, especially you dads;.
lew wthe cost of kids .
i have seen repeatedly, the breakdown of the cost of raising a kid, .
DakotaRed --- Isn't that the truth? We had six, and I love them of all ages. Our situation was different as the last 4 were all deliberate. The youngest would get about 6 years old and then my wife couldn't stand it anymore as she loved babies. So she'd want another. She lasted 8 years on the last one, and then came to me: "Just one more?" So they are spread from 17 to 41 years old.
We got a letter from my 3rd daughter a while back and I laughed until the tears were rolling down my cheeks. I wrote it up as a small article in case I could use it later. Here it is:
Childs Play
We received a letter from our daughter Judy the other day. She lives out of state with her husband Daniel and two little ones, Lindy, 6 years old, and Saylor, 4. She recounts an instance that, if there ever was one, demonstrates the wonderful and wacky world that parents of tiny ones live in. Those of us who are parents should identify with the picture of a young mother or father throwing their hands up in the air and hollering, "NOW what am I supposed to do????"
The following are her words, quoted verbatim:
"We had a little excitement (thats the wrong word) the other day. Saylor and Lindy were playing with Saylor's tiny Batman characters. (About one inch high.) Saylor got the bright idea to stick one (Robin) in his butt crack.
"I wasn't home at the time and Daniel was sleeping. Lindy came running in the bedroom crying in horror. "Saylor's Batman got lost up his butt!!"
"Needless to say, Daniel was a little confused at his rude awakening! He finally woke up enough to get the whole story, but didn't quite know what to do.
"Then I got home. He took me in the bedroom privately and told me about it. I was sure he was just playing a trick on me. How could Saylor possibly have a toy stuck up his butt, and why would he do such a thing?!? But he promised me that he was telling the truth.
"Then I got really concerned my son was getting too curious about his body. So I had a talk with Saylor privately. But most of my fears disappeared when he explained everything --- "Mom", he says, "I wanted to put Robin in my butt crack because I'm waiting for a humongus toot to come out so Robin can explode across the room!"
"I tried really hard, but I could not keep a straight face. So we discussed together why that wasn't really a good idea. But we laughed together too. Now the only problem was getting it out!
"Well, for three days we checked the toilet every time he went poop. But we never found poor Robin. Then one day as I was vacuuming, guess who I almost ran over? Yes, Robin. He must have fallen out of Saylor's butt crack and never got lost in there at all!
"Saylor hugged me so hard when I showed him who I had found. Ive been his hero ever since.
"Well, that's what life is like with Saylor --- never boring!!!"
Ahh, yes --- Ain't life grand?
LoneWolf
Edited by - LoneWolf on 27 September 2002 2:48:25
it's 9.30 am in sunny wsm, and here i am sat in front of me computer instead of zooming up and down a ladder fitting soffits and guttering.. i'm injured!.
yup, fell of me ladder yesterday, and received a sprained ankle for my troubles.
(actually, it was the bottom rung that i slipped off, so it wasn't that bad.
Knowing Englishman, I'm bettin' it's his third leg that he's got elevated.
LoneWolf
i can't believe no has posted any of this stuff.
vicki was on cbc in toronto and other parts of ontario again last night.
she creamed them.
Excellent. I'm sure that everyone here is deeply interested in what's going on and will be watching it closely to see how to go about it. I look for a very large class action movement to head up soon.
Wish I had your email address. I have a few things of my own that I'd like your input on. Mine is open.
LoneWolf
Edited by - LoneWolf on 17 September 2002 11:49:51
i need some help identifying a berry bush that is in my backyard.
i have tasted the berries and they are on the sour side, they also have a pit on the inside of them (or at least the one i tried did........gonna wait awhile before i try another).
whatever they are they have come ripe w/in the past week.
Hi, Scootergirl,
Out here in Oregon we have a government agency (state) that's known as the Extension Service. If anyone has a plant, bug, varmit of any kind, they have the experts to deal with them. I know, as I'm their prime expert on stinging insects like honeybees, yellow jackets, and hornets. (I get anywhere from two to ten calls a day to take care of problems where they are involved.)
You should have something similar there.
I would strongly advise that you take examples of the berries and the leaves, if not a whole stem to these folks. Here the service is free. The reason I advise this is that there are too many berries that look like that, and some are indeed poisonous.
For those here on the west coast, we have one that grows fairly close to the ground, not usually over 3 feet tall, that is called Baneberry. It's not good for you either, but they are the same beautiful clear red that is shown on the first post.
More power to you on the living off the land. There are many things here that we use. Take care now.
LoneWolf
who here has been married...10 years or more?is it a great marriage and what is the secret of keeping it together?
In November it will be 42 years. I wouldn't trade her for anyone or any group of anyones.
Like you Dutchy, we married young, very young. I was twenty and she was 15, and we got all the same "encouragement" that you did. Also, like Seeker4, I am out, having been DFed about 15 years ago and have been quite defiant about it, as I was DFed on false charges. She's not only still in, but so are all of our kids and relatives. Even more interesting is that she is well liked and respected by everyone that knows her, inside or out. She and the kids receive no prejudice due to my being DFed.
That doesn't mean it was easy. Picture being on the road 2,000 miles away and finding out that your "loving brothers" assigned her a part in the Service Meeting to explain to the congregation how she manages to keep her spirituality when she has an unbelieving husband. (%*@#$^&$(^ !!!?)
My thoughts run along the same lines as Seeker4 and Mulan's. I'll add a little, though.
Yes, it is highly important to like each other before the love sets in. That way you can make rational decisions about each other. In my case, I followed some advice my Mom gave me: "When picking a woman to be your wife, ask yourself if this is the girl that you want to be the mother of your children." That puts a whole different slant on it from the usual "Wow! I'd sure like to get in her pants!" So while I like and respect Teejay, I disagree with his conclusions. By using logic and reason, one can greatly enhance the chances that one could find an excellent marriage.
There is much emphasis on having the same likes and dislikes in society today, and I feel that it is badly overrated. I love the differences between us, for her interests open doors of knowledge for me that I would never get the opportunity to experience. In talking together I can see these things through her eyes, and that added perspective widens our horizons.
Another thing that I vehemently disagree with is the 50/50 business of dividing up everything in the marriage as to responsibility. Given such a scenario, each is constantly preoccupied with whether or not things are fair and whether each are living up to it. We've always used the 60/60 approach. That way things get done and there is something left over. More importantly, it also reflects the attitude that should be in a marriage: Teamwork --- two against the world and united in our goals, each thinking of the other first.
To illustrate: Once about 4 years into our marriage, we bought an old used Cadillac at an excellent price. We loved it and felt we were rich even though we were far from it. One day while I was at work painting the switch room of the local telephone company (where all the operators were), one of the operators came to me with a funny look on her face. "Your wife's on the phone."
I got on and she was crying so hard that I could hardly find out why. I finally learned why. She'd stacked the Cadillac. She kept talking about the car and how bad it looked and wouldn't pay any attention to my questions. Finally I nearly yelled: TO HECK WITH THE BLASTED CADILLAC!! HOW ARE YOU??? Operators heads popped up all over the place. LOL I've long felt that it is in the other's faults and errors and how they are dealt with that true love is expressed and built.
I love my girl. I would like very much to remain married to her for all time.
LoneWolf
Edited by - LoneWolf on 4 September 2002 9:16:5
after the earth is turned into a global paradise, .
will everyone stop wearing clothes?
will our eyes become closed to nudity as they were in the beginning?
I won't take my clothes off until I get my birthday suit ironed.
LoneWolf
i have not been a very active poster lately [have you missed me?].
there has been plenty of drama in my life the last few weeks, and my time has been absorbed by it.
my grandma is seriously ill, and has but a few more months to live.
Hi, Viv.
For what it's worth, I've been DFed for about 15 years now and have always sat where ever I blamed well pleased. Never got any crap about it either. Stand up for what you know is right and don't compromise.
Sorry you're having hard times.
LoneWolf
