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  Do you get "tired" of "Apostates/ex-jws" bashing the WT to you?

  by booker-t in

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  i know it is good to let out pent up anger for healing purposes, but do you ever get tired of some "apostates or ex-jws" constantly bashing the wt?

  for instance when you or having lunch and all they do is say "the evil wt this the evil wt that" during the whole time you are at lunch?

  sometimes i just don't feel like hearing it especially when i am at an event for fun.

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  Who are you the POSTING POLICE JD??

  asked and ANSWERED your honor
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  Do you get "tired" of "Apostates/ex-jws" bashing the WT to you?

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
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  i know it is good to let out pent up anger for healing purposes, but do you ever get tired of some "apostates or ex-jws" constantly bashing the wt?

  for instance when you or having lunch and all they do is say "the evil wt this the evil wt that" during the whole time you are at lunch?

  sometimes i just don't feel like hearing it especially when i am at an event for fun.

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  I dont personally know anybody who talks about it non stop. This forum is for the purpose of venting the hurt they have inflicted upon millions of us...so if someone is tired of reading about it in HERE...hey hit the X and get the hell outta dodge. The JWs have printed hundreds of thousands of pages of hatred directed at all things, religious or otherwise, which are non JWs for the last hundred years. I dare anybody to find one paragraph in one article in one magazine put out by the JWs that says anything kind about anybody else. The result of hearing that year after year after year...leaves one feeling resentful and wanting revenge.

  Some people if they dont have an outlet for all that resentment will implode from it. Especially families who have lost their children or children who are being shunned by their own parents.

  No..I dont get tired of hearing about it. Nobody else would believe it so we HAVE to listen to each other.
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  RAY FRANZ--You Are Appreciated Very Much!!!

  by minimus in

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  after coming home to read what has happened today on this board, i would just like to say that no matter what differences anyone has ever had with ray franz, i, for one appreciate what he has done for me.

  ray has helped more people to look at their spirituality over the last 2 decades.

  he is not perfect, but he has been a voice of reason and a man of integrity.

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  Well...I was a snot nosed JW in the fall of 96 still arguing in the AOL Chat rooms like a mad person and defending JW beliefs and I did probably my very first search on "Jehovahs Witnesses" and the site that stuck out at me was RANDYs Freeminds site. And there was a sample blurb there about someone who had disassociated or something and it piqued my curiosity. So I went to the site and there were more blurbs about some guy named Ray Franz who wrote the book of all books and why it was I think his words were "the most hated and destroyed book" and so I thought...I have to see WHY that is the case. So I went to the library with my daughter and newborn and snuck into the religion section and brought home the only three books there...One of which was Crisis of Conscience (The other two...well one was Blood on the Altar by David Reed....cant recall the third) And as I was leaving the library who is walking UP the steps but the Congregation Overseers wife and a pioneer! So I thought Jehovah was punishing me...and the guilt!! Oy the GUILT! I covered the books with the baby in my arms, made nice and hauled ass outta there! I went home, opened Rays book...didnt put it DOWN for about a WEEK! And within one month was disassociated.

  Yes Ray saved me. Theres no doubt in my mind. Randy's advertisement of his books sent me there. And my self righteous attitude made me do that search in the first place. I wrote to Ray to let him know how I felt too and Cynthia wrote me the most wonderful loving letter of encouragement. They dont come any sweeter than those two.

  I dont worship the guy. And he would be pissed off if anybody DID. But his courage to be a whistle blower in the face of adversity and what he knew would mean dismissal from the only life he had ever known...was courage beyond what I ever would be capable of. God bless you and Cynthia Ray!! And Happy birthday!
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  my cat died today... i need consoling...

  by theinfamousone in

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  this is the guy that sat on my razor blades the one time i was thinking of cutting myself... this is the guy that everytime my dad beat me, would come to my room and lay with me... this is the guy that one time jumped into the bathtub with me while i was crying after a brutal beating, the cat hated water... this is a cat that was more family to me than my own father and mother combined... this was my best friend... .

  today i had to do the hardest thing i ever did, i had to choose to have him put down... and as he fought the vet, and tried to bite her, i put my hand on his head, and he stopped struggling... and as they put the last needle into his leg, he purred until he died... the vet says she has never seen that before... this was my best friend and i had to kill him... fuck, im a baby, but i miss him soooo much.

  the infamous one.

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  Oh yayyyyyyy!!! Im so happy you got a new kitty!!! They are the best best BEST...and they SOOO get it when you are down. THEY FEEL IT. Without fail my cats come to me when Im depressed and or crying. They want so badly to fix it for you. I lost my 12 year old kitty in December...had to put her down because she either was poisoned or got rabies. But she couldnt be helped. And even in that horrible state...she sought me out, she knew mom would help her. But I couldnt this time. It hurt like hell.

  But within a couple weeks of her passing another kitty had adopted me. And even though they are different, they are so much the same, and I feel like the Kitty God knows I had a hole in my heart. There are so many kitties out there waiting for an opportunity to love somebody you know?

  Little Mags is adorable!! (Havent met a kitty yet I didnt think that of tho :)

  thanks for the update!

  Love
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  End of life

  by Phil in

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  i have recently been diagnosed with lukemia with a limited life left in the old bod.

  my daughter is a jw and was lured into the institution by her then boyfriend (now husband).

  my present intention is to prepare some idea of what she has got herself into.

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  Phil...oh man. :( Have you told your daughter you are dying? Maybe given her a chance to do the right thing here?

  I have thought often over the past few months with my sister in law dying of pancreatic cancer...what I would do if confronted with the news of my own imminent demise. I am quite sure I couldnt handle it.

  I admire your strength. Stay with us and let us know how you are doing ok? And make sure you have someone on here who can post if you cant to let us know your situation.

  hugs, LD
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  Is this petty? An argument with the neighbours

  by needproof in

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  i'd like to ask you all whether or not you think that we are being petty here.

  the house next door to us has been empty for a while now.

  the last person to use it was a chinese doctor who used to house illegal immigrants which looked after his little cannabis factory.

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  When is the next recycling day? Fill yours, put it to the curb, watch for theirs...watch for the garbage guy. Go get yours back.
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  The Wedding.............

  by whyamihere in

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  as some of you know i am a wedding florist(side job) - just a few pictures of what i do.

  this is what i have been doing for the past couple months(planning part).

  this wedding took me a little over 35 hours to complete.

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  Good lord...doing the flowers AND being in the wedding?? Girl you were busy!

  Pretty color combination the pink and green. I can almost SMELL those posies!
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  Watchtower Hate

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  reading through a thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/133948/1.ashx apoint being discussed was whether the wt has told people to hate others.

  i thought these quotes may be of value.. wt 1961 15th july page 420 .

  when a person persists in a way of badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of his make-up, then in order to hate what is bad a christian must hate the person with whom the badness is inseparably linked.

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  They love to have persmission to hate too. It's the same to them as those poor bastards who think they have to crawl for miles on their knees for the Virgin Mary. There is some twisted pleasure in it for them. They go back to their little halls of hate and hi five each other for hating and being so fucking good and spiritual.

  They are the same ones who are screwing the overseer's wife, beating their kids and cheating their employees. But hey...they didnt get caught yet so...no harm no foul eh? HI-FIVE BRO!
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  My Parting Shot

  by Warlock in

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  for those of you here who think you know so much, read: "the black swan" by nassim nicholas taleb.

  then, you will see how much you really don't know.. for those of you here who think you don't know much, read: "the black swan" by nassim nicholas taleb.. then, you will see how much you really do know.. i love all of you, either way, but that was my parting shot.

  i've been here for almost a year and i must move on.. warlock .

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  He'll be back...they allllllways come back. :) Who else is going to listen to their ex jw drivel and warblings with such intensity and love as we do?

  dont go
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  I am so angry and frustrated right now

  by elinor in

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  i cannot be very specific with this because i do not know who is patrolling these boards to try to catch faders (like me).

  my mother has been very ill for a long time due to multiple health issues, all of them stemming back to a very low blood cell count.

  before i even began to have doubts, as well as my father asking me about the 1975 debacle, i kept wondering why god (i can't call him jehovah now that i know the truth) would allow such a wonderful and selfless person to suffer if all they needed was something that was produced naturally in our bodies.

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  I feel incredibly bad for you honey. Having just gone through the death of my sister in law during which she suffered and there was nothing anybody could do...I understand your sadness. Spend as much time as you can with her.

  Some day...the change is coming some day. God willing.

  Not any help to you I know. Im so sorry.

  LD