if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.
this is a game changer.
the bomb!.
Its amazing how many people are attacking this book and haven't even read it.
I have read it. Have you?
You all are sounding like a born in JW hearing TTATT for the first time all in denial. LOL
Agreed. All of the evolution deniers are at least as ignorant as the GB. You have the chance to fox yourself if you like. It is sad, though, that you can LOL at your own pitiful ignorance.
ok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.
the theory of major evolution is crap!
the theory is falling apart.
So what you're saying then is the theory of evolution is not that life was created by random chance
Evolution says absolutely nothing about how life started.
then things evolved from there
Yes.
but that life was created somehow and then things randomly evolved from that point on.
Evolution is NOT ranndom. Read up on it. Here's a link. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13698-evolution-myths-evolution-is-random.html#.UdJQnthkoXc
Seriously you need to go back and read Darwin's stuff.
I prefer modern science. Do you prefer medicine from 1860 or what your modern doctor has to offer? Do you prefer ignorance or knowledge?
Also if thats what you truly believe just know thats not what most people believe about evolution.
It's not what I believe, it's literally what it is. I don't really care what most people believe. Most believing something wrong doesn't make the wrong thing true or right. In 1930 most white people believed interacial marriages were against God. Now, fortunately, most people are not so ignorant.
Educate yourself. With some work, you too can join the ranks of the not so ignorant.
here's the problem with infinity ... we can't comprehend it.. it's bad enough when it's space, but when it's time as well and then we throw in some all powerful creature supposedly existing forever ... well, it just doesn't make sense and raises questions.. such as why wait?
why didn't god create the universe the day before he did?
or the day before that?
How early in your life did you pick up the idea that you can refer to other's "ignorance" and noy be classed as rude, having your good upbringing questioned?
You are ignorant on this subject. If you don't like it, fix it.
I read up on it. believe me.
I believe you read up on it. Your conclusion is flawed. You are simply ignorant on the subject. Fix that and you will be able to have a productive conversation. You didn't even mention frames of reference (a key component of the twin time dilation mental exercise (it's not a paradox)). If you don't understand key components of the things you bring up, you cannot in any way be taken seriously.
If you and everybody MOVES through time, why would time have to move?
A flawed premise in your question due to ignorance. Read up on expanding spacetime (and observed and real phenomenon).
just testing.
You've done nothing of the sort.
ok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.
the theory of major evolution is crap!
the theory is falling apart.
Oh yes with the facts staring you in the face just blow them off with some excuses saying they're irrelevant.
Yes, that's exactly what you are doing.
Sorry dude it doesn't work that way
Then why are you doing it?
the theory of evolution has been stated to pretty much say that life wasn't created
That's not at all what evolution says. Seriously, stop blowing off the facts and making stuff up.
so with that then it has to deal with all that it entails no matter how hard you want to ignore the obvious.
It deals with how life changes over time quite nicely, with predictive powers and explanations for observation. Perhaps you should educate yourself on what evolution is rather that ignoraing the obvious facts staring you in the face and saying wrong things all the time.
ok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.
the theory of major evolution is crap!
the theory is falling apart.
Yes I have no idea what I am talking about and evolution is a proven fact
Correct.
except one serious problem ladies and gentlemen, science can not and has not created life.
Nothing to do with evolution, nor is it a serious problem.
Surely with all their vast resources and knowing all about life and mapping the Genome they should have been able to create life by now.
False equivalency and argument from incredulity.
I mean mother nature did it spontaneously without all the resources at her beck and call like scientists have so what gives???
Nothing. You are still wrong and ignorant of science and evolution. Both can be fixed if you want to work at it.
here's the problem with infinity ... we can't comprehend it.. it's bad enough when it's space, but when it's time as well and then we throw in some all powerful creature supposedly existing forever ... well, it just doesn't make sense and raises questions.. such as why wait?
why didn't god create the universe the day before he did?
or the day before that?
EP educate yourself, I mean check it please.
at c, travel through time is zero. your clock would stand still, as observers could see.
You funny. Frames of reference. You should look it up. To an outside observer NOT traveling at that speed, sure, a clock would appear to stand still. For the person traveling AT that speed, his clock appears to move normally. It's called time dilation. Gravity and speed can both cause it.
Perhaps you should read up on frames of reference before you talk about it. In fact, I'll give you snippet below. After that, it's up to you to fix your ignorance.
For instance, two rocket ships (A and B) speeding past one another in space would experience time dilation. If they somehow had a clear view into each other's ships, each crew would see the others' clocks and movement as going too slowly. That is, inside the frame of reference of Ship A, everything is moving normally, but everything over on Ship B appears to be moving slower (and vice versa).
at least you realize that we are moving Through Time, together with all of us. thank you.
I did not agree to your ignorant stationary time theory. You are welcome for the information. I hope you use it fix your ignorance.
if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.
this is a game changer.
the bomb!.
If anyone would like an example to help people to understand the concept: to patronize, this thread would sure be great for that.
Agreed. Ignorance pretending to be knowledge is rampant. A perfect example are the claims of evolution deniers.
Until you have read the book, why comment on the book?
I did. It was rife with ignorance and misinformation.
BTW, what did you mean by "nothing"?
here's the problem with infinity ... we can't comprehend it.. it's bad enough when it's space, but when it's time as well and then we throw in some all powerful creature supposedly existing forever ... well, it just doesn't make sense and raises questions.. such as why wait?
why didn't god create the universe the day before he did?
or the day before that?
at c =maximum movement THROUGH SPACE ,-- movement THROUGH time becomes zero.
No, it does not.
It is observable, look at your clock ticking away.
The clock ticks because of gears. Take away the power source and the clock does not move because it is moving through time.
But, since you brought it up and asked for observations.....We are part of existing spacetime. We move with both time and space simultanously. That is why both time and space can dilate. Time is NOT stationary. The observation is that spacetiime is expanding. That, by definition, means time is moving.
Educate yourself.
if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.
this is a game changer.
the bomb!.
If you have read the book and found anything interesting in it then please act like an intelligent adult and explain. Let's have a conversation about it.
QC's modus operandi is to say something silly (like that scientists know what happened before the Big Bang) and then back it up with unrelated material, tiresome platitudes, misunderstanding science and avoidance.
if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.
this is a game changer.
the bomb!.
The question is, what does Billy think is nothing.
Not at all, FHN. You stated what he believed (perhaps mistakenly). I am asking you specifically what you meant by "nothing" when you you were saying that believed that's what everything came from.
I am asking YOU what YOU meant.
Or everything we see today springing from absolutely nothing?
What do you mean by "nothing"?
Which is more farfetched? A god with no beginning or inanimate matter with no beginning?
Why do you presume those are the only two options?
Billy, Bohm, CO, EP read the book. It’s very challenging with detail, but way worth it.
I read about 100 pages of it. It was not challenging and it was rife with error, cartoonish charts and speculation while ignoring modern science.
