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  "Forged" by Bart Ehrman

  by Dagney in

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  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062012614/ref=s9_simh_bw_p14_d0_g14_i1?pf_rd_m=atvpdkikx0der&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0eppm5kwv5zydqhmh1ar&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1287771322&pf_rd_i=283155.

  has anybody read this recent book by erhman?

  wondering.. thank you..

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  If you have ONE error and that SAME error appears on 500 manuscripts, it is viewed as 500 errors and to quote Bruce Metzger, "there has been NO ERROR shown that can cal into question ANY major Christain Doctrine."

  Erhman makes that same point in one of his books.

  Christ openly and clearly states to love and pray for those that presecute you and are your enemies so ANY faith that advocates violence against them is NOT Christian.

  Slavery was not in any way considered persecution in the day. The morals are questionable at best. Paul at the same time speaks of women as prophetesses and in a subsequent letter commands they not be allowed to speak. Jesus also said that he came, not the bring peace but a sword.

  Which one of these do we follow? No peace, but pray for your enemies? Women can prophesy but not speak at gatherings? Love those persecuting you but never bother to mention that, oh by the way, owning people as property is persecution?

  I think the point is, there are no originals, there are a LOT of reasons to suspect they may have been parts of oral traditions that changed grossly over time and there is no way to know what Jesus "said".
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  "Forged" by Bart Ehrman

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062012614/ref=s9_simh_bw_p14_d0_g14_i1?pf_rd_m=atvpdkikx0der&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0eppm5kwv5zydqhmh1ar&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1287771322&pf_rd_i=283155.

  has anybody read this recent book by erhman?

  wondering.. thank you..

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  In the forward for Misquoting Jesus, and others, I think, he explains how he went from hardcore fundamentalist inerrant Bible believer to not a believer. He is also very clear that his wife is still a believer and that he is not telling anyone not to be a Christian or that their faith is wrong, just that HIS journey took hom to non-belief.

  I will not at ALL deny that he is getting right in face of a lot of the traditional ideas that most of the lay people out there hold about christianity. A lot of the things he writes are opinion. Some of them are the majority scholarly opinion, some aren't, some I think he has pretty thin reasoning on how he reaches conclusions. However, the things that are facts, like the early fractured scene of what christianity looked like, or that there are definitely disconnects in the letters commonly attributed to Paul and WHY they think some of them are forgeries, why, from textualy criticisms, it's almost certain that the gospels were originally written in greek and not by speakers or hebrew or arimaic.
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  "Forged" by Bart Ehrman

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062012614/ref=s9_simh_bw_p14_d0_g14_i1?pf_rd_m=atvpdkikx0der&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0eppm5kwv5zydqhmh1ar&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1287771322&pf_rd_i=283155.

  has anybody read this recent book by erhman?

  wondering.. thank you..

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  I have read Forged, Lost Christianities and Misquoting Jesus.
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  Have you ever successfully persuaded anyone?

  by losthobbit in

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  i've had many conversations with religious people and am always surprised that i am never able to get anyone to put their programmed beliefs aside and process the logic that proves how unreasonable their doctrines are.. so, i'm wondering, have you ever successfully persuaded someone to change their mind about something that they had been brainwashed with, and if so, how did you do it?.

  thanks in advance .

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  Have I ever persuaded someone? Yes, I have had sex with a woman.

  Have I ever persuaded someone on religion, politics or anything else? Dunno.
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  Sex with Neanderthals supercharged our immune systems.

  by moshe in

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  new studies released today, suggest that homo sapiens have a stronger immune system and more resistance to viruses due interbreeding with neanderthals.. .

  "neanderthals and other extinct humans might have endowed some of us with the robust immune systems we enjoy today, scientists now find.. these genetic gifts might have helped our species as we expanded out of africa, investigators added.".

  http://www.livescience.com/15754-neanderthals-immunity-boost-humans.html.

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  So I guess "Quest for Fire" was right all along !

  Or "The Crying Game"
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  "Forged" by Bart Ehrman

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062012614/ref=s9_simh_bw_p14_d0_g14_i1?pf_rd_m=atvpdkikx0der&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0eppm5kwv5zydqhmh1ar&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1287771322&pf_rd_i=283155.

  has anybody read this recent book by erhman?

  wondering.. thank you..

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  He may not introduce anything new, per se, but he defintely makes it more accessible to the common and casual ready. He does a decent job of explaining history, using examples, explaining textual criticism and calls out where there are scholarly disagreements.

  Having said that, these books are NOT scholarly work, at all. they reference and rely on scholarly works, his and others, but these are not in and of themselves scholarly works and they shouldn't be confused to be such.
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  "Forged" by Bart Ehrman

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062012614/ref=s9_simh_bw_p14_d0_g14_i1?pf_rd_m=atvpdkikx0der&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0eppm5kwv5zydqhmh1ar&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1287771322&pf_rd_i=283155.

  has anybody read this recent book by erhman?

  wondering.. thank you..

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  I think that IF Bart would just curtail himself to the fact that certain things are "suspect" and requite us to NOT take them at face value, I think he would do a better Job and not turn away so many people because of his way of doing things.

  Exactly. If only the OTHER side would only present the things they can prove with the scientific method and not expect us to take invisible talking people at face value they would do a better job and not sound so crazy.

  That is an argument go in both directions.... :)
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  Sex with Neanderthals supercharged our immune systems.

  by moshe in

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  2. relationships

  new studies released today, suggest that homo sapiens have a stronger immune system and more resistance to viruses due interbreeding with neanderthals.. .

  "neanderthals and other extinct humans might have endowed some of us with the robust immune systems we enjoy today, scientists now find.. these genetic gifts might have helped our species as we expanded out of africa, investigators added.".

  http://www.livescience.com/15754-neanderthals-immunity-boost-humans.html.

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  You know, "MAY" and "MIGHT" don't actually equal DID.

  Correct. The interbreeding did happen, the advanced immune system MAY be the result.
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  Sex with Neanderthals supercharged our immune systems.

  by moshe in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  new studies released today, suggest that homo sapiens have a stronger immune system and more resistance to viruses due interbreeding with neanderthals.. .

  "neanderthals and other extinct humans might have endowed some of us with the robust immune systems we enjoy today, scientists now find.. these genetic gifts might have helped our species as we expanded out of africa, investigators added.".

  http://www.livescience.com/15754-neanderthals-immunity-boost-humans.html.

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  You know, "MAY" and "MIGHT" don't actually equal DID.

  Correct. The interbreeding did happen, the advanced immune system MAY be the result.
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  Reiki Energy Healing, my birthday and younger women

  by Cagefighter in

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  i apologize for not being around much.

  some of you have expressed interest in my writing, so here is the latest:.

  http://lydialarue.blogspot.com/.

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  Reiki is a laying on of the hands to help your energy flow so you feel better. Basically, an Asian massage parlor.