Posts by sizemik

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According to WT 8/11: YOU MIGHT BE MENTALLY IMBALANCED IF YOU PROFESS TO BE ANOINTED!!!

by JustHuman14 in

according to the august 2011 watchtower magazine:.

memorial partakers.

this is the number of baptized individuals who partake of the emblems at the memorial worldwide.

sizemik

Actually, I think a person who gets the idea that they have the "heavenly calling" is the sane one. People who think their carbon-based biological bodies can live eternally are the ones who are really wacked.

Hmmmmmm . . . Really?

Since the mapping of the human genome, biological science is even more agreeable than ever that "carbon based biological bodies" have the potential for a hugely extended, even an eternal life span . . . ie; it's biologically possible.

On the other hand, I think little scientific progress has been made in the search for "heaven".

As Flipper said however, to fully believe in the possibility of either, in the context the WT society places it, is fairy tale stuff. It takes a fair degree of mind-bending to believe in either. But of course mind-bending is the WT's specialist area of expertise. Getting brain-wacked is a pre-requisite for entry into the WT school of impossibilities.

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One of my friends is looking for a delivery job.

by Iamallcool in

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can you list some jobs that involves delivery?

let me give you two examples to begin with, delivery of car parts, delivery of newspapers.

he is considering to find delivery jobs that are not in the classifieds.

sizemik

Pizza

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How to identify a JW from a distance

by Bungi Bill in

much has apparently been said in recent years about how a "good" jw should be dressed and groomed, so as to be easily identified - even from a distance.. yesterday, while driving through town, i did see two people the distance:.

- and certainly, by the way they were dressed, my suspicions were aroused.. - however, what confirmed their identity was not their dress and grooming.

rather, as i drove up closer, i noticed both of them doing the "pioneer shuffle" up somebody's driveway:.

sizemik

LOL Mr M . . . that wasn't Spraydin was it? . . . sounds suspiciosly like the carload I used to get around in.

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I fell & Guess What???

by mouthy in

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friends

i moved on sat...fell & fractured my wrist..... it is in a caste,thank god it is the ,left one.... i am all settles in with the help of my daughter ,sonin law,grandkids.. i was at the hospital for hours....was able to talk to doc,nurse,why.

they must not shut the door on the jw's as they have been doing.. they were very interesting took my card to give the ones they have.

been listening to.....so i feel good came out of bad....

sizemik

Grace! . . . I've just found your thread . . . after all that sunshine, it has to rain on you!

Hopefully the pain has subsided . . . now you just have to put up with that cast for a while.

I would recommend no skydiving this summer until that wrist is fully healed.

Ha ha ha . . . When I was young I used to be into skydiving every weekend . . . and skiing and motor-racing too. Now I'm mid-fifty and I've never broken a bone! . . . touch wood. (can I say that now?)

Take good care while you're 'comprimised' . . . love to you.

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Help!

by DeViL DriVeR 76 in

i completely forgot about this place until today.

i had an epiphany two das ago.

i must admit i was taking "legal plant food" and still have not gone to bed.

sizemik

DeViL dRiVeR 76 . . . check your PM's

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Help!

by DeViL DriVeR 76 in

i completely forgot about this place until today.

i had an epiphany two das ago.

i must admit i was taking "legal plant food" and still have not gone to bed.

sizemik

DeViL dRiVeR 76 . . . welcome to the Forum.

From your description it appears your parents were converts when you were young? You also mentioned that your father is very paranoid and hears voices? This sounds very much like he too suffers from a mental illness. The conversion process has the potential to be very damaging. While I don't want to offer unwarranted excuses for abusive behavior, if you haven't already done so, you will find it very therapeutic to understand just why your family life was such an ordeal. This video interview about mental illness among JW's is well worth your time.

http://www.freeminds.org/psychology/mind-control/jehovah-s-witnesses-and-mental-illness-by-dr.-jerry-bergman.html

It runs for an hour so give yourself time to view it. It will help in understanding your own personal trials and tribulations as well. The rest of the freeminds site is very helpful also (but you probably know this already?). I personally suffered a mental health problem after 26 years in the cult. This has taken several years to gain control over, but I'm in a very much better place now and enjoying life to the full.

The WT experience is damaging on many fronts and many here have had similar struggles. You will find much support and understanding as a result. Something we have drummed into us in WT world is an inherent mistrust of Medical Practitioners . . . nowhere moreso than in the area of mental health. Put this mistrust behind you for there is much to be gained from availing yourself of modern treatments. Do not be overly anxious about medication. There is more risk in avoiding it's appropriate use, than in allowing it to perform it's function. It doesn't mean lifelong dependency . . . I am now medication free, but it has taken about 6 years.

Counselling is also very helpful. It's not the mind-bending magic show that WT would have us believe. You can be helped to gain knowledge of why things are the way they are, as well as effective coping strategies.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about the things covered here and continue to research matters. Talk frankly and openly to those in the Medical Profession about your feelings on your treatment . . . they will be happy to make adjustments. Adjusting your treatment will be an ongoing feature as you make progress.

Aren't you glad the entrapment is over? . . . believe me, life will get a lot better for you from here on . . . you have much to enjoy and look forward to.

All the best in the days ahead.

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How should I respond to a JW friend? (Australia)

by summerinvincible in

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friends

sorry if this isn't the right place to post this - brand new member here.. i recently caught up with an old friend who is a jw.

she's been witnessing to me, and i've accepted all her handouts because i don't want to hurt her feelings.

but now she's asking me for my "thoughts" about what i've read so far.

sizemik

summerinvincible . . .

Welcome to the forum.

In order to open your PM's you have to perform the exercise TWICE . . . the first time you get a blank . . . just click on the envelop again and then the message again.

The first reply to your thread tells you all you need to know . . . ask on one subject that has no provable answer and press for proof. Don't allow the conversation to progress beyond that until you have your answer to YOUR satisfaction.

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According to WT 8/11: YOU MIGHT BE MENTALLY IMBALANCED IF YOU PROFESS TO BE ANOINTED!!!

by JustHuman14 in

according to the august 2011 watchtower magazine:.

memorial partakers.

this is the number of baptized individuals who partake of the emblems at the memorial worldwide.

sizemik

YOU MIGHT BE MENTALLY IMBALANCED IF YOU PROFESS TO BE ANOINTED!!!

This could be one of the few times they are actually telling the truth.

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Evolution

by goddidit in

what does the jw literature have to say about the fact that human embryos develop, and then lose, tails and gills?.

or do they just ignore it?.

anyone have any links?.

sizemik

You might find this article interesting also . . . it contains some interesting links as well . . . none to WT publications however.

http://www.livescience.com/558-human-ears-evolved-ancient-fish-gills.html

Of course, the WT are only likely to touch briefly on any subject that even hints at supporting evolutionary theory . . . and then they usually quote the more wacky theories that are more easily debunked and ridiculed. They are cunningly selective when dealing with the subject.

If you use the search function on the WT official website, under "evolution" you will find this selective treatment becomes very obvious. Little or nothing about the actual mechanics of evolution is presented and references to it are religiously weighted. Most articles dealing with scientific issues in general are about 80-90% bible quotes etc. For example they ask questions like "Did man really come from animals?" The question implies skepticism before the answer is even treated. The scientific premise is that man IS an animal, so it's a religious rather than a scientific question, weighted by including a perceptive distinction.

If anyone wants to treat the subject objectively they are thus obliged to go beyond anything the WT has to say. The beliefs of the average JW regarding what evolution teaches are thus actually way more wacky than even the most extreme evolutionary scientist would believe. Clever huh?

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WATCHTOWER WRONGFULL DEATH LAWSUIT - UPDATE

by Lawrence Hughes in

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friends

dear friends,.

i would like to thank those who have helped me.

as a result, important legal precedents have been made and a lot of media coverage has been made which has exposed the watchtower society.

sizemik

Interesting post Steve . . .

I noticed in the abstract summary that apart from bone marrow, hepatic and renal function results, no comment is made on other hematic changes ie; red blood cell changes. This appears to have been at the centre of Bethany's complications. Any information on this aspect you are aware of?