Welcome aboard What Now? . . . you sound very well balanced and motivated . . . being on this forum will help
sizemik
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Hey its just me
by What Now? ini just wanted to introduce myself ... i've been following this forum for a few months and finallly joined.
my parents became witnesses when i was four years old.
even when i was younger i always had doubts (my sweet old grandparents were "wicked" and would be destroyed at armageddon???
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How Much Did It Cost You Financial Being or Leaving The Witnesses
by Was New Boy init these tough economic times many of us have looked back at the decisions we made concerning money with much dismay.
the organization has cost many people 100's of thousands of dallors or more over the course of their life time.. 1. all the time and gas spent on knocking on doors.. 2. brothers that ripped you off in business.. 3. all the money i gave my exwifes dead beat relatives.. 4. making just minumum wage for two years of poineering.
than going to bethel for four years making only $22 a month, 9 dallors of which went for subway tokens.
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sizemik
@anewme
Remember, whatever the costs and sacrifices, they were entirely up to you.
I think that is the most ignorant statement I have ever read on this board
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I ended my bible study today
by still thinking ini have officially stopped my bible study today.
i have been trying to for weeks (after 10 years of on/off studying).
it got to the stage where i was asking too many of those questions that made everyone feel uncomfortable.
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sizemik
Hello again still thinking . . . just found your thread.
At some point soon after my exit (after 25 yrs), I experienced a similar spiritual "void" . . . I labelled it the "spiritual widerness".
I combatted it at first by praying directly to Jesus as a mediator and in harmony with passages like "Come to me . . . " "I am the way . . . " (you know the ones) . . . also Stephens example at the time of his death in Acts somewhere where he appealed directly to "the Lord" This helped a lot at the time, though I don't pray quite as often now.
Also my Bible has all Jesus' actual words highlighted in red, and I restrict myself to only them quite often . . . they are still great principles.
Also, Ray Franz's other book 'In Search of Spiritual Freedom' is well worth a read if you liked C of C.
One other valuable piece of advice I received was to "allow place for the unknown" rather than try and "fill the void" right away
I find little conflict now between Evolution (evidence or theory) and the possible existence of a creator . . . or even the authenticity of Jesus. The evidence is not conclusive enough to be theist/atheist with full conviction in my opinion. The WT only has their version of "worship" . . . nothing more. So long as what you believe does not conflict with real facts of certainty . . . then all else is possible . . . but mostly unknown.
I don't believe either, that faith requires us to attribute "fact" to that which cannot be proved to a reasonable degree, and if God exists He wouldn't want us to "gamble" on possibilities . . . it's not reasonable.
What you had to say in conclusion is very true . . .
Just feeling really sad at the moment......but like all things I know this too shall pass.
Living my life by Christian principles feels a good way to live for me . . . and that is the sum total of my (what anyone might call) "worship" . . . just a consciousness of those principles and a recommendation of them by my best example in living to them, according to my own estimation and nobody elses.
Keep a 'critical' mind and an open one as well . . . and your mind will find a guarded peace . . . well, that's what I found anyway.
As for lost friends? . . . some become close for sure, and they will feel the loss also . . . they are simply surrendering to the mind-controlling requirements of a "high-control religious cult" . . . rather then the alternative . . . at least, that is what the real evidence tells me . . .
Hope this makes some sense and helps somehow
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So an elder stopped by today...
by Igot2bme ini got a visit from an elder today and he brought over an invitation to the memorial, i excepted it and he said he wanted to come over for a shepherding call.
i told him monday would work for me.
so him and another elder will be here on monday at 7:30 pm.
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sizemik
Normal reaction Igot2beme . . . don't feel bad . . . fob it off and keep your head down . . . good luck
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So an elder stopped by today...
by Igot2bme ini got a visit from an elder today and he brought over an invitation to the memorial, i excepted it and he said he wanted to come over for a shepherding call.
i told him monday would work for me.
so him and another elder will be here on monday at 7:30 pm.
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sizemik
OTWO has given you the best advice anyone can . . . if you don't want 'DF' looming your way right now . . . don't have the meeting
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So an elder stopped by today...
by Igot2bme ini got a visit from an elder today and he brought over an invitation to the memorial, i excepted it and he said he wanted to come over for a shepherding call.
i told him monday would work for me.
so him and another elder will be here on monday at 7:30 pm.
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sizemik
What are your intentions and expectations regarding the outcome?
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All out pandemonium breaks out on The Six Screens Conference call... Guest Barbara Anderson and Johnny the Bethelite.
by koolaid-man inthis highly explosive six screens of the watchtower april 9-2011 conference call is now up loaded and ready to be heard.
concerned people from all over the world were calling in to get the latest news on what is going on in the world of the watchtower.. our first guest was barbara anderson and she brought us up to speed on the criminal complaint the watchtower organization is facing in australia.
barbara as always wants the facts straight and delivers her information in a very professional,competent manner.. steve guziec a former j.w.
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sizemik
Publishingcult, Lils husband should be more concerned about his wife befriending you and thinking you are handsome
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Oh of course . . . homosexuals are ALL UGLY . . . and certainly not worthy of being anyone's friend . . . right Dick? (no inference intended PC)
It's a shame the most high didn't rule "intellectual" masturbation as a sin . . . you'd be preaching from the bowels of Gehenna already!
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Well I am hurt
by mouthy inmy internet has been off since the 5th of april not 1 of you missed me .
i see where a big fight went on when the conference call was on( i only read some.
of your points).
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And God Gave Us Grace [Mouthy!]
by compound complex indear newbies and others somehow unaquainted with our resident grandma,.
"...the watchtower is determined to doggedly hang on to the lie that the time of the end commenced in 1914. there is no other explanation for the watchtower's persistent and seeming incurable interpretive schizophrenia.
" [cc: emphasis] -------(e-watchman.com/essays/dawn_new_world_order.html --- sorry, it's not clickable[?]).
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sizemik
I've only been here a short while and already have much to thank you for Grace (and you know why). Thanks for the bump CC . . . and it won't be the last.
Luvonya Grace
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All out pandemonium breaks out on The Six Screens Conference call... Guest Barbara Anderson and Johnny the Bethelite.
by koolaid-man inthis highly explosive six screens of the watchtower april 9-2011 conference call is now up loaded and ready to be heard.
concerned people from all over the world were calling in to get the latest news on what is going on in the world of the watchtower.. our first guest was barbara anderson and she brought us up to speed on the criminal complaint the watchtower organization is facing in australia.
barbara as always wants the facts straight and delivers her information in a very professional,competent manner.. steve guziec a former j.w.
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sizemik
I think misery summed it up . . .
DJEggNogg contributes unknowlingly to the apostate cause, and Rick Fearon contributes unknowlingly to the WT's cause.
So what do DJEggNogg (aka "the genius") and Rick (Jerry) Fearon (Springer) have in common?
An ego the size of a bus . . . that's what!
The truth is . . . this bus is like the one on "Speed" . . . if it slows to less than 300km/hr it will automatically explode from lack of attention.
Best not to ride either of them.