Posts by lv4fer

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Proud Papa

by Carmel in

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first let me congratulate stacey!

now carmel isn't trying to "one-up" her, but dad does have a warm glow tonight.

we just learned one of our sons recieved an international award for advancing "inter religious understanding" by the work he has been doing the past ten years.

We walked out of my mom's memorial service

by tyydyy in

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my brother, my sister, myself, xena and those with us walked out when we were called aside and asked not to attend the reception after the memorial.. more details to follow....... timb

I am SORRY for your loss. I lost my mom 18 years ago. God I miss her. I wish I could just give her a hug and say I love you, thank you for teaching me so much. I hope I am half the mother she was....I know I strive to be. How dare them! They forget what a memorial service is for! It's for those who lost their loved one, not an evangilizing moment. I'm glad you had your own service! My heart and prayers go out to you. \ My dad is still in and he is 81, when he dies I'm going to use that moment to witness to them!!!!!!

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what is the deal with xmas?....

by flower in

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seriously i just dont understand the thought process behind what people do at xmas and the holiday season.

have you ever noticed how negative and stressed out people are?

i come into contact with a lot of people at work and as a job requirement i have to make small talk with them while taking care of their transactions and services.

lv4fer

I think people will complain about anything they can at any given time. I really didn't know how much I love Christmas until spending 16 years in the Organization!!!! You know I love it! I love the family time. I'm sorry I raised my kids as JW's and if I could change one thing in my life it would be that I wasted their life and mine screwed up in that lousy CULT! We are all happy that we can celebrate it now. I don't know when Jesus was born, but the point is that he was and I am going to celebrate that!!!! Thank GOD he was and did die for us. I am going celebrate it on Dec 25 because I don't know the exact date it was and I'm absolutely positive he will not hold it against me!!!!!! I'm going to exchange gifts with all those that I love and have a wonderful dinner.....now that is really EVIL. I will thank God that he has given me this wonderful family and chance to show them how much I love them, because unfortunately we tend to get busy and forget to make the time for them even though we should throughout the year!!!! I'm sorry I had to vent!

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Jackson's and Boy's Prints Found on Porn Mags

by Elsewhere in

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041212/d86tr8sg1.html

report: jackson prints found on porn mags.

dec 11, 10:01 pm (et).

lv4fer

Ok I have a son who is now 20, but at any rate, there is no time in his life I would let him have a sleep over with a grown man 46 (my husbands age). I don't care if he is Michael Jackson or not. Now these people let their children be with him after he already paid another family off for suspected child molesting. I wouldn't let my kid near someone like this. I can't imagine my husband saying honey, I want to have a bunch of young kids over and were going to have a sleep over etc. etc. Sounds WRONG to me. As a parent I would say NO WAY! It just sounds plain weird to me. As a parent you have to look out for the best interests of your kids and here is where the parents of these children let celebrityism get in the way of good judgement!!!!

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2004 Worlwide Report

by frogit in

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i have the scanned 2004 report pm me and i will email them to you.

grand total (235 lands) 6,513,132 2004 av pubs 6,308,341 inc over 2003 % 2.0 2004 no baptised 262,416 av pio pubs 858,461 no of congs 96,894 toal hours 1,282,234,887 av bible studies 6,085,387 memorial attendance 16,760,607 memorial partakers 8,570. note the fine increase!.

frogit.

lv4fer

I'm really happy to see that there isn't much growth in the world. I hope this is a trend that may continue. I hope to see a negative growth soon......ah but would they publish that. How many people here lied on there time and bible studies etc, when they were in? Do you think these reports are accurate. I know I use to make up numbers especially near the last two or three years.

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candy cane history.. glad my jw parents didnt know this!

by candidlynuts in

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most people think the candy cane is a meaningless decoration seen at christmas time.

but, it is more than a sweet decoration.

it symbolizes the true meaning of the season.. .

lv4fer

WOW and all this time I thought it was just mint candy! I was so stupid. I don't think I can ever eat another candy cane again..........Oh that's right I'm NOT a Jehovah's Witness anymore! I can do what I damn well please. So where is that box of candy!!!!!!!!!!!

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would you go back if...

by what_Truth? in

a member of the gb splits breaks away and takes a few billion with him.

he decideds to found his own church.

this church is almost exactly the same as the jehovah's witneses except for a few major changes .

lv4fer

NO WAY. I am free from the Cult I was in. Now why in anyones right mind would you go back?

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Church Recommendations?

by sandy in

i never thought i would be looking for a new church but i am.

does anyone have any recommendations?.

i am looking into the unitarian church.

lv4fer

I looked up their beliefs on their web-site. I didn't agree with their beliefs. If it suits you go for it. I go to a Non-Denominational Christian church, when I go. I'm not that regular maybe once a month or so. I would probably go more often, if I could get my husband or kids to go with me. It's kind of lonely by yourself, there is noone to talk about after....like what did you think about this or that etc.

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Question on Rom 6:23

by _Atlas in

"for the wages sin pays is death, but the gift god gives is everlasting life?".

rom 6:23.

for years we been taught that we die because of sin and once you die you have paid your "debt" .

lv4fer

The wages sin pays is death. This has nothing to do with dying being the payment for sin. What this scripture means is that if you sin your payment is death. Now if you have accepted Jesus Christ as your savior, your debt is paid and all your sins are forgiven. So if you have not accepted Christ and you sin ..... your payment will be death. THe Watchtower has this all twisted up. As with just about everything they teach. This is my interpretation on this. Take it or leave it

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HELP!! Trying to find right religion brough up as JW

by emmamess22 in

i was raised as an on again off again (when convenient for flighty mom) jw.

i have recently decided due to the birth of a daughter that it was time to get it together and decide what to do with myself spiritually as she was going to church with her baptisit dad and i felt awful.

so, i've been using the reasoning book and reading the bible and trying to decide what's right.. spent hours looking at christmas online....saw it was traced to pagan celebrations and decided not to do it.

lv4fer

What you need to do is start reading the bible. Not the poorly and inaccurate New World Translation. Just about any other will do. When I was opeining my eyes and leaving. I bought myself a good NIV (New International Version) I Also bought myself an Interlinear Old and New Testament these can be expensive. I bought mine on line. I started with the New Testament. The Rapture makes a lot more sense then Jesus invisibly coming in 1914. You will be shocked to realize that Jesus really is Lord according to the New Testament. That Abraham was looking forward to his heavenly reward, not an earthly one. And really there is no such thing as a heavenly and eartly class. What Jesus was talking about when he said sheep that were not of this fold was simply that initially those that accepted him were the Jews and the other sheep were the gentiles. Get yourself a good bible! Pray alot and find yorself a good non-denominational Christian Church. There is no need to feel guilty, your are praising the LORD!!!!! It doesn't matter where you do it. Which building you choose to do it in, just do it