I had a talk , #4, to do on this very subject. I was on my way out and learning more and more of the hypocrisay of JW. This sealed the deal for me,,,,,,I could not give that talk. I tried to stay in JW, it was everything to me and I wanted to defend it anyway I could. I just could not give this talk in good conscience.
LyinEyes
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WTS says no confession to men necessary
by TheListener ini ran across this the other day and it caught my eye.. w85 12/1 pp.
6-7 righteousness before god
neither catholic nor protestant "justification".
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This Past Sunday My Wife Took Me To The Elders- Part 2
by enlightenedcynic inthanks for all of the kind words and advice, i appreciate it greatly and will look to use some of it.
a special thank you to both cal and vitty for their pm's which gave me a different perspective to look from.. so the p.o.
meets with us in one of the back rooms and my wife starts to speak.
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LyinEyes
Good points Nina.
When Denny first told me about the corruption in my beloved JW religion, I was livid!
He had been raised JW , just like me, he was an elder for 10 years and this was not suppposed to happen.
I told him he was bringing demons in the house and basically threw what can only be described as a "fit".
He was patient with me and in time I knew he would not lead me down a road he had not looked into very closely.
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After being a JW, do you experience panic when someone expresses disapproval
by Elsewhere inhaving grown up in the wts i was always taught that there are very serious consequences that result when those in authority do not approve of you.. q: what happens when you break a wt rule?.
a: very quick and brutal punishment in the form of shunning and ostracism.
there is no middle ground... you either get no punishment or extremely severe punishment.. having grown up knowing only those two possible outcomes i find that i tend to become panicked when friends or authority figures express disapproval.
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LyinEyes
Yes I do. I often go over my last conversations with someone , wondering if I said something wrong, are they mad at me. I am learning to not be this way, but it takes time. I am learning to trust myself and to be able to express myself , even if it may not be what the other person wants to hear.
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Picture of my kids,,,,,brag a bit
by LyinEyes ini hope this works,,,,,,here are four of my reasons to love my life and at times pull my hair out!!.
the girl in the glasses is my daughter kelly , she is 13 and a goth, she is so unique and such a strong free spirit.
she wants piercings and tatoos, but it aint happening till she is 18. .
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LyinEyes
Thanks everyone, one of my favorite things in life is pictures, especially of my babies.
Thanks to all of you for sharing your pictures too.
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My 19 year old "DF'd" niece tried to "kill" herself over a "married man"
by booker-t ina while back i mentioned on a post that my 19 year old niece was "df'd" for having an affair with a married man.
she is "obsessed" with this guy.
he is a guy at her job and he is in his 40's with a wife and three kids.
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LyinEyes
Please get her some help some help right now. My sister killed herself over her husband's affair , and feeling she was not loved and never would be. I think in her case , it wasnt so much she loved this man so much she would rather die , but the fact that she felt she could not be a person who could be loved the way she wanted and she was tired of screwing up . Long , long story to that.
I had no clue she was hurting as bad as she was. And our own Mother committed suicide because my elder Dad did run off with another woman. In my Mom's case she was hurt because she did love my Dad, but she too screwed her own life up with pills and was full of guilt about hurting Jehovah.
If you can let her move in , at least long enough for her to see that she is a value, at least to you. Get her some help,,,just when you think you have talked them out of suicidal idealation, it still might happen. Some people you can't save. I know I tried and tired and was still shocked when it did .
I wish to God, I would have seen the signs , but I really feel my sister didnt want me to know, she knew I would put her in the hospital and she honestly would have rather died than that, and she did. She did it her way I guess. STill I wish I would have done it. Looking back I can see something was wrong. She was also anorexic and that didnt help her mental state.
So , so many times women brought up JW, and many not also,,,,,,,think the only way to happines is a man. If your neice could find some girl friends, get out and be with others, do things with her to help her from hiding in the house.
I can't stress it enough, get her professional help and it will be hard for you , but well worth it,,,,,,to keep a close eye on her. Give her the love she needs and help her love herself, it takes time, but maybe you can help her. Just realize that you can't do it alone, inlist help from family , friends, any avenue you can to help her thru this. She just can't see that her life can be so much better, but she will one day if she can just make it thru this.
Much love , Dede
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Cannabis vs Alchohol and Other Man Made Pharmacuticals
by OpenFireGlass inwell for starters i do have a prescription for cannabis (insomnia / depression).... why would i want to take pharmacuticals for insomnia/depression?
i mean, what if i get prescribed/addicted to a pill, that one day i might not be able to afford?
(if you/i grow cannabis it's more/less free)... now the moral issue... who is more likely to beat the shit out of their kids?
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LyinEyes
I will never forget a show I watched on HBO, about a young boy with so many problems, ADD, anger ,he really had some kind of chemical imbalance and could not function. His mother and doctors were at their wits end and they put him on Cannabis, in a pill form. She was fighting to keep him on it but she ended up having to do it illegally. There was a great, and I mean a great change in the boy when he was on it. He wasnt acting high, he acted normal and would communicate, and I think he had some form of autisim as well. This might have been on Montel Williams show is I think back now.
Each case is different, I wouldnt do it for a kid with just ADD, but this kid could not function and would go into his own world.
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Let's Decorate the Kingdom Hall!
by Nosferatu inone thing that always sucked about the kingdom hall was it's blandness.
bland wallpaper, bland paint, no pictures, no windows, maybe a fake plant or fake flowers, the big sign with the years text, the cork board, and contribution boxes.
boring.. what would you put into a kingdom hall to make it look more interesting?
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LyinEyes
See , in the south here lots of us drive 4 wheel drive pickups, trucks ya know.....so there is plenty of room for a big ass cooler in the back.
And if there happens to be a cold beer or 5 in the cooler along with the cokes and juice boxes so be it.
My youngest son was screaming at the meeting one hot summer evening, and since I volunteered to be the one to find an excuse to get out of the hall, I helped my frayed nerves to a Bud Lite.
That is why I parked in the back, and my husband parked in the back so he could take the bad kid out on Sundays to listen to the Dallas game.
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Picture of my kids,,,,,brag a bit
by LyinEyes ini hope this works,,,,,,here are four of my reasons to love my life and at times pull my hair out!!.
the girl in the glasses is my daughter kelly , she is 13 and a goth, she is so unique and such a strong free spirit.
she wants piercings and tatoos, but it aint happening till she is 18. .
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LyinEyes
The girl in the glasses is my daughter Kelly , she is 13 and a Goth, she is so unique and such a strong free spirit. She wants piercings and tatoos, but it aint happening till she is 18.
The young man is my son Jake, 19 on prom nite in his limited edition Calvin Klein tux, looks like a Soprano huh?He plans to go to college in the fall.
The other young girl holding the ferret is my Sister Ginger's daughter Amber, 17, I am so proud of her strength and I am blessed with another daughter with her.
The boy on the end is my Chance, he is 11 and loves to fish, ride go carts, four wheelers, and wants to be a be a firefighter, like now!! He is the one who scares me.
I love them all and I am proud of them .
What about yours? If you dont want to post a picture you can brag anyway......hehe.
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Let's Decorate the Kingdom Hall!
by Nosferatu inone thing that always sucked about the kingdom hall was it's blandness.
bland wallpaper, bland paint, no pictures, no windows, maybe a fake plant or fake flowers, the big sign with the years text, the cork board, and contribution boxes.
boring.. what would you put into a kingdom hall to make it look more interesting?
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LyinEyes
Instead of a water cooler filled with ice chillin water to freeze your veins, inducing even more sleep.......fill it with expresso.
Would it hurt JW child development to put one swing set out for the poor children with ADDH? I had to take mine out on so many occassions and a 10 break to swing would have helped them burn some energy. I am serious about that one.
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How do you deal with death now
by unique1 ini must say, it was easier being a jw, believing that i would in fact be resurrected to a paradise earth and having the faith that would definitely happen.
i still believe in the bible to the extent that i believe jesus led a good life and if we follow his example we will lead one to.
however, the bible was written by men, who are imperfect and therefore i don't feel we can take the entire book at face value as truth.
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LyinEyes
I don't really believe anything anymore about death and the afterlife. But I would be open to suggestion or a miracle if it were to come my way. That hasnt happened in my case, with my Mom I really needed answers and with my sister I needed them even more. Nothing. So I guess I just go with we are not meant to know if there is a Heaven, I mean we get no real proof. I can't rely on my dreams, if I happen to see them or talk to them in my dreams, that is probably just my mind soothing my soul ,needing and proving comfort.
I am only scared of death because of who we leave behind, and if I die, my family would hurt so bad, especially my youngest son, as he is traumatized by my sister's suicide. He thinks since my Mom and sister went out like that so will I. I understand his fear.
I am afraid of death still if someone dies in my immediate family, I am not sure I could handle it again. Death seems to inch it's way closer and closer into my inner circle to the point of wondering ...what the HELL??
As for myself,,,,,,,,if I try to be a good person, maybe there will be something on the other side and I will be remembered. I don't know, if not, then I will not waste my life anymore waiting on promises that will not come true. I try to live each day as it is my last, anywhere.