Posts by MacHislopp

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The power of " free" advertising!!

by MacHislopp in

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friends

i'm sure you'll like this one, it come from the magazine

awake!

published by the wtbs inc. :

MacHislopp

Hello Ozziepost,

first of all I'm glad that you're back on ...board.

Second I do hope that you're approching your

best form again!

Third, as usual, an excellent and very sharp comment.

Greetings to you and your wife,

James Charles MacHislopp

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The power of " free" advertising!!

by MacHislopp in

jw
friends

i'm sure you'll like this one, it come from the magazine

awake!

published by the wtbs inc. :

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

I'm sure you'll like this one, it come from the magazine

Awake! published by the WTBS Inc. :

*** g98 8/22 9 The Power of Advertising *** [Box on page 9]

Advertising God’s Kingdom

"What is one of the best ways to reach people with a persuasive message? The book Advertising: Principles and Practice says: “In an ideal world every manufacturer would be able to talk one-on-one with every consumer about the product or service being offered for sale.”

True Christians have voluntarily been publicizing God’s Kingdom in this way for nearly 2,000 years. (Matthew 24:14; Acts 20:20)

Why do not more businesses use this method of reaching people?

The book explains: “It is very expensive. Calls made by salespeople can cost

well in excess of $150 per call.” Christians, of course, “advertise”

God’s Kingdom on a voluntary basis. It is a part of their worship."

Can you imagine…? Free labour all the time,….billions of times!

Actually they …- those who advertise for the WTBS Inc. - have to

pay cash themselves, for the items they will freely advertise!

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

"Amicus Plato, sed magis amica veritas" (Ammonius, Vitae Aristotelis )

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those sick bastards are winning

by kls in

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with the un on the tv all the time my husband is just stuck to it waiting for jw prophesis to come true it is so sick , you can just see the mind minulipulation going on in his head.i have been reading about the un and the watchtower in threads and in freeminds , i was not surprised but very hopeful that this maybe what i need to finally get my husband to see the sickness of this cult.i printed out the photocopy on freeminds and showed it to him ,also everyday he reads the dailytext thats supposed to have bible verses for each day, i compared his text with the bible and found many differences and each text ends with the wt page and yr this verse was in.well i confronted him and holy crap he went nuts , screaming , it's all lies that is an apostate sight, anyone can print anything about us.i told him i could send a letter to the un for conformation, well that did it he threw a cup and smashed it and looked crazed.you would think after all these yrs of him being in a cult i could accept it , but i can,t ,i know what it is and it makes me sick , i am starting to believe these sick asses are going to win, one way or another i will get away from this.

the despise for this cult grows by the minute.

the only thing keeping me sane is all of you , i feel very cared for here ,you all can think for yourselves and say how you feel, i think i know all of you more then my husband of 29yrs.

MacHislopp

Hello kls,

I'm sorry to read about your situation.

Here on this board you have received so many suggestions

and I'm sure that they'll be useful to you. Try to be patient

as much as you can bear, remember Kls, :

"The truth can never be hurt by a lie, but a lie can be exposed

by the truth". Take courage, the road is long...

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

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Disfellowshippees Go Public w/Photos! Courageous Testimonials Online

by Derrick in

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the human rights abuses of our spiritual brothers and sisters by elders shepherding the flock, leading to countless ruined families and suicides, cries clear to heaven:.

http://www.disfellowshipped.org/testimonies_page_3.htm.

i recall the unforgettable claim by an elder that "each elder on every judicial committee has no moral responsibility for suicides after they disfellowship wrongdoers in the christian congregation and bears no burden of conscience for disfellowshippees or their families.

MacHislopp

Hello Gopher,

thanks for your interesting comments.

"These are criminal matters. If it is "proven criminal wrongdoing", the person likely is in prison anyway. But if not, you'd think the general membership of the religion would know this person is a bad egg and would steer clear of association with him/her just on general principle. "

Excellent points and very logical.

"So disfellowshipping is really a completely unnecessary, not to mention unscriptural practice. Of course this practice furthers the interests of the Watchtower Society, so until legally compelled to quit it, they will continue this backward and harmful practice. "

I do agree with you. The WTBS Inc. usese to 'instill fear' and the 'elders' are used to apply it.

Then they' forbid ' to talk to disfellowshiped and dissociates ones to make sure

that certain things do not become general knowledge, and they...talk about the

Scribes and the Pharisees of Jesus' time!

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

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Disfellowshippees Go Public w/Photos! Courageous Testimonials Online

by Derrick in

jw
friends

the human rights abuses of our spiritual brothers and sisters by elders shepherding the flock, leading to countless ruined families and suicides, cries clear to heaven:.

http://www.disfellowshipped.org/testimonies_page_3.htm.

i recall the unforgettable claim by an elder that "each elder on every judicial committee has no moral responsibility for suicides after they disfellowship wrongdoers in the christian congregation and bears no burden of conscience for disfellowshippees or their families.

MacHislopp

Hello Derrick,

welcome on board and thanks for your post, with the link.

I'll look into it later. Meanwhile , please read this post of mine:

Let's travel back in time, to the year 1958, and imagine to be among

the 148,046 audiences , on Wednesday , August 2 nd and the place:

Yankee Stadium-PoloGrounds, New York City, for the "Divine Will"

International Assembly of Jehovah's Witnesses.

The evening speaker is F.W. Franz, vicepresident of the Watch Tower

Society, the them of his discourse " Keeping Strict Watch on How We Walk".

(Eph. 5:15)

"…Pointing up the need of constant prayerful vigilance, Franz told his hearers

that for each of the five years from March, 1952, to April, 1957, there had been

an average of 500 persons disfellowshiped from congregations in the United States.

"However," he said, " during the past year , from April 1957, to April, 1958, the

numbers rose sharply above that yearly average to 1,334 delinquent members, or more than two and a half times as many." The Society's vice-president further stated: " We dare not dull the shock of this by arguing that this may , in part , be due to American congregations having at least 18,537 new persons associating

themselves with the witnessing activities this past year." He proved statistically

that " this definitely disclose that more than twice as many as in previous years

have failed to watch themselves and act wisely.

It was made apparent that if anyone commits a sin deserving disfellowshiping

he should be painfully grieved, should repent and confess his sin, not just to God,

but to God's visible organization through his local theocratically appointed servants. The Society's vice-president instructed overseers who receive reports

of some delinquent member of the congregation to investigate the matter and take steps concerning it.

Regarding disfellowshiping, he said: " The primary righteous purpose of this is to keep God's visible organization of his sheep clean and safe from a spread of sinfulness. The recovery of the offender is secondary." At a hearing before the congregation committee, it was pointed out , the offender or supposed offender, should not attempt to justify himself but ought to seek the unity of the theocratic

organization and should be concerned with settling matters quickly. Only then "

is he in a right condition to offer sacrifice to God and to find acceptance with him."

Noting that congregation service committees have what he termed " fearful power" to disfellowship unruly ones, Franz admonished : " They must use this power with caution, not only to avoid getting into legal difficulties with the law courts of the land, but also to avoid sinning with this disfellowshiping power

through a misuse or an abuse of it."

In conclusion the Society's vice-president told his listeners that wisdom and salvation lie in ' keeping a strict watch on how we walk'. «

(The 1958 REPORT - "Divine Will" International Assembly of Jehovah's Witnesses, Yankee Stadium-Polo Grounds, New York City, Agust, 2, 1958 .pp.54,55 )

I 've found these revealing points:

1)"…above that yearly average to 1,334 delinquent members,.."

2) "…He proved statistically.."

3) " he should be painfully grieved.."

4)" …should repent and confess his sin.."

5)" .. not just to God, but to God's visible organization through

his local theocratically appointed servants."

6) "…instructed overseers who receive reports of some

delinquent member.."

7)"…keep God's visible organization of his sheepclean

and safe from a spread of sinfulness. "

8)" …The recovery of the offender is secondary."

9)"… seek the unity of the theocratic organization .."

10)"… should be concerned with settling matters quickly."

11) ".. At a hearing before the congregation committee.."

12) " that congregation service committees have what

he termed " fearful power" !!!

13) " They must use this power with caution,

not only to avoid getting into legal

difficulties with the law courts of the land.."

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I'm sure that this could be useful even if only as a thought provoking material.

I do have the original - 112 pages ' brochure.’ -.

Greetings, James Charles MacHislopp

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UN-NGO

by ransek in

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i have a question to all of those who have spoken with the elders about watchtowers involvement in un.

how did they respond?

did it come as a surprise?

MacHislopp

Hello Rensek,

welcome on board. Concerning the topic

Ozziepost gave you a concise and correct answer.

I can tell you, because I was among those ...at the

beginning of a very long lasting and devastating topic.

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

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A long and dusty road paved with lies!

by MacHislopp in

*how does the governing body differ froml a legal corporation?

(b) what were the members of the governing body doing, and under whose guidance?

this was evidently under the guidance of jehovahs invisible active force or holy spirit.

MacHislopp

Hello Utopian_Raindrops,

thanks for your appreciative comments. It is true that I try

to post ...interesting and useful informationsfrom the WTBS Inc

publications. It's refreshing and enlightening to unmask the pack

of lies that they have and continue to dish out, in their publications

having the ...brazen attitude to claim that the Creator is behind it

all, and that their organization is God's visible channel on this planet.

As for the latin quote, they add a ...personal touch.

"We (my daughter and I) would like to use some of your information

on our site if you wouldn’t mind. " Of course , feel free to use them.

I love how you end your posts with a quote from some Latin writing. My mother took Latin in school and has read the works you quote from so she tells me about them!

I'm glad that you both like them.

This one Nescit vox missa reverti" (Horatius, ars poetica, 390) I find very appropriate when it comes to the WTBS and even it’s founder….

I did choose this one for that...specific reason.

Greetings, to you all, J.C.MacHislopp

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Judicials Committees " fearful power "!!!

by MacHislopp in

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please , before you continue the reading relaxyou'll need!

let's travel back in time, to the year 1958, and imagine to be among

" at a hearing before the congregation committee, it was pointed out , the offender or supposed offender, should not attempt to justify himself but ought to seek the unity of the theocratic

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

Please , before you continue the reading …relax…you'll need!