hello evryone,.
if anyone thought that jehovahs revelations ended.
with the last book of the bible....take a look at this:.
Hello evryone,
if anyone thought that Jehovah’s revelations ended
with the last book of the Bible....take a look at this:
“ ...Rather , he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed
by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ , and “the faithful
and discreet slave.”
(w. August 1, 2001 page 14 § 8)
Two questions only:
1) How do “they “ get the revelation today??
2) Does Jehovah God changes His revelations?
Greetings, J.C. MacHislopp
well, here it is, after almost 20 years 12 of those serving in position of responsibility it comes down to my spiritual execution(jw style).
allow me to explain.
for those who you who still remember me from h20 under the name truthexodus i came to post my experience as an elder of local congregation in nyc area.
Hello exodus,
I do remember your posts in H2o!
Your experience sounds ...so familiar and believe
me I do understand you. Take courage, stay always
on the side of the TRUTH...which it is not what some claim
to speak and write about.
Let those who are liars ans hypocrytes show themselves.
Thanks for sharing tour thoughts and ... feelings.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
the october 1 watchtower 2001 features articles on training children "properly" and dealing with a "prodigal child.
the latest inside u.s. figures reveal that 86% of jw children leave the fold, with some 29% who eventually come back for reasons of family ties, most never "reaching out.
" that means over half leave permanently.
Hello Maximus,
excellent topic, very good points.
It is true, the percentages are similar in this part of
Western Europe, with figure as high as 70-75% !
Many more are in the process of leaving or drifting away,
i.e. Germany, Belgium, etc.
I do see that many agree with what you've written...
it is a FACT !
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
To joelbear: To have the true figures count first the
TOTAL of bapt. in the last 10,15, 20years and then...
tell me about the difference. (I did post all the
figures sometime ago).
i recieved a phone call last night from a brother who i was able to verify was of the anointed.
he stated he represented a large group of anointed from within the organization and they wanted to send me a letter.
the anointed remnant.
Hello Silentlamb,
it a good post, but I wonder
if the letter it is really true.
Waiting for more ...proofs.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
"in contrast with humans, who have a limited life span, jehovah never feels pressured by time to reveal his secrets prematurely.
this fact should prevent us from becoming impatient when certain bible questions cannot presently be explained to our satisfaction.
"modesty on the part of the faithful and discreet slave class, commissioned to provide the christian household with food at the proper time, prevents it from presumptuously running ahead and wildly speculating about things that are still unclear.
Hello Maximus,
excellent post. I do agree with you.
Now the WTS wants be careful and avoid making
"sweeping " statements. I do believe that the
www has got on their toes...!
I also wonder like Francoise:
"How DOES Jehovah communicate with the governing body? I have asked this question for years with no answer from anyone. Does the GB get together in a circle in a room in the corner in the dark holding hands and pray and the voice of Jehovah is heard by all? Is "new light" written in Hebrew length-wise on a strip of Charmin, rolled up and left on the front steps of Borg headquarters in a Hellman's mayonaize jar? Does an English-speaking Dove descend and sit on Ted's head and issue new light? Does the GB have a set of Urim and Thummin (Ex. 28:30) and roll them down the conference table and "divine" the will of Jehovah just like the Isrealites did? They determined the will of the creator of the universe of universes by playing with fancy ROCKS? "
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
not sure if this has been highlighted on the board, but in the august km there's an interesting paragraph in the front page article "you are a theatrical spectacle":.
sometimes the media publish reports about the activities of jehovah's people.
while we appreciate good reports that are factual and fair in dealing with our work, we also expect bad reports to be spread by our detractors from time to time.
Hemmo Expatbrit,
thanks for the post, a good
eye! In this part of Western Europe we do say:
"..putting your hands in front ...to save you face.."
Wts is just doing that.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
could anyone remind me where i can get old watchtowers online?
it was on the board recently, but i lost the link.
i'm trying to research the shunning policy.. thanks.
To Philo and Nicolau,
thanks for the post.
A great thing will be to have ONLINE the watchtowers,
at least, from 1917 to 1949. I did get a link related
to some work on these w's ..on CD but unfortunately I've
lost it. Does anyone remember it,
Thanks, and greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
why was there no official arrangement before 1952 to disfellowship people?
was there a different procedure with a different name?
was no one committing disfellowshipping offenses?
Hello Blondie,
i want to thank for this post, the
excellent research that went with it, and also the others
that commented.
From this watchtower: *** w76 2/15 122 You Must Be Holy Because Jehovah Is Holy ***
I do like this part:
"...But Jehovah was interested in his people, just as in times past, so through his channel of communication he lovingly brought forward information to counteract the filth that could tarnish or cause his people to become unholy. (Matt. 24:45-47)"
Which " instrument " was used for the bringing forward of the
communication?
*Does not seems odd that Jehovah..."informed " his people
about this matter only from 1946, which was 67 years after
the editing of the first "Zion's Watchtower and Herald of
Christ presence" ?
Btw, for quotes before 1950 (no CD goes before that date...
and I'm referring to the English language version) try
" Spiritual food at the proper time " in 4 sections, I
think from " Freeminds". I've made a little book, with
all of them " Watchtower quotations " quite handy!
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
in february of 2001, watchtower of australia presented to the government a letter regarding charitable status definition.. is there any news of status determination?.
interested individuals both here and the uk would like to provide meaningful information, in the event this is still open or pending.. maximus
Hello Maximus,
thanks for your good post and
the up-dating of informations.
In the Western part of Europe, many are also interested
in what the WTS is doing concerning "...charity's matters"!
Many are aware of similar moves in Europe...but some
like in France, Italy, Germany have been at a stand-still.
Greeting to all, J.C.MacHislopp
aren't you sick of being filled with so much hate ?
i think hate is one of the greatest sins.
satan hates jehovah, and his people.
Hello Explorer,
welcome in this Board!
Tina , in mho, gave you an excellent answer:
".. a well-worn party line often used when JW's can't refute policy and doctrinal issues."
Yes rather then REFUTING with solid arguments, WTS resorts to
"name-calling ", side-tracking the real ISSUE:
" Doctine of men, cannot be preached as coming
from God Himself or from His word, the Bible."
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
